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    less for vtec?

    ok i have an F22A6 in my car and i was wondering if it would be worth it for me to take that motor out for an F22B2? i know theres 10 less horsepower but this will sound very ricey, if i had vtec would that matter to make up the power or is the 130 with vtec? the other option is to just save for a h22a. what would be worth it in the long run?
    Originally posted by rickyduckworth
    that's pretty interesting. when i get that bored i just watch porn and go to sleep

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    the f22a6 you have now is a good motor. it has lots of hidden power waiting for you .it came with 140 hp.so whats the question ? purchase good name brand bolt on's and it will be a great , good running motor.f22/h22 , the h22 has more stock hp and is gonna have as many products to upgrade. then you have to buy it and install it, but its 6 of one, and a half dozen of the other.

    A man that keeps looking back can't see whats in front of him.

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      #3
      The F22B2 is not a VTEC motor.






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        #4
        Originally posted by deevergote View Post
        The F22B2 is not a VTEC motor.
        meant b1 my fault. but what are good starter engine mods for the car? i know abou the intake, full exhaust and header but besides that?
        yeah that b1 has 145 stocki if im not mistaken. the b1 would be better overall though correct? i love my A6 but i feel like a little riceboy and want this holy VTEC lol
        Last edited by sohc4door; 01-03-2011, 10:47 PM.
        Originally posted by rickyduckworth
        that's pretty interesting. when i get that bored i just watch porn and go to sleep

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          #5
          h23 intake manifold, IAB spacers, flywheel, good clutch, cam, tune. there is so much you can do with an A6.
          COUPE K24

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            #6
            ^please still w/ the F22A, I'm sure others will say this, but the F22B1 and B2 heads are inferior to the F22A's good flowing head design. The B1 swap would not be worth it at all. I would do the typical bolt on's of course, don't forget about maintenance or the small mods like solid motor mounts or getting the IM cooler. Look into shorter gears and the best thing I can recommend is an aftermarket camshaft + a tune. The cam is the brain of the engine, it's a VERY important mod, esp. for n/a motors.

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              #7
              Just go h22 you will love it I promise you or go sohc vtec with a lil boost you will love that too idk bro do what you think is best best of luck to you

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                #8
                In terms of overall performance, the F22B1 is a downgrade from the F22A6, and is generally laughed at in this crowd. Swap to that, and you'll be told CONSTANTLY what a turd it is.

                If you want VTEC, get the H22... but UNDERSTAND what VTEC is, what it does, and why you want it... if you just "want the holy vtec"... then you have a lot to learn. Nothing is ricier than adding a performance upgrade to be cool, rather than to actually increase performance.






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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Granite CB7 View Post
                  ^please still w/ the F22A, I'm sure others will say this, but the F22B1 and B2 heads are inferior to the F22A's good flowing head design. The B1 swap would not be worth it at all. I would do the typical bolt on's of course, don't forget about maintenance or the small mods like solid motor mounts or getting the IM cooler. Look into shorter gears and the best thing I can recommend is an aftermarket camshaft + a tune. The cam is the brain of the engine, it's a VERY important mod, esp. for n/a motors.
                  ive been hearing this alot but i dont know anything about these F motors really, stick me on a D16ZC i know my shit cuz my uncle had a CRX Si with that in it and i learned but anyway, what are good cams out there that i should run? i know about a few but people always have different oppinions
                  Originally posted by rickyduckworth
                  that's pretty interesting. when i get that bored i just watch porn and go to sleep

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                    #10
                    If you want the best, Bisimoto is the way to go.






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                      #11
                      Originally posted by deevergote View Post
                      If you want the best, Bisimoto is the way to go.
                      they run like 250 fot the cam and that seems very reasonable for the top quality. and i just realised i passed 30 posts. members ride here i come lol
                      Originally posted by rickyduckworth
                      that's pretty interesting. when i get that bored i just watch porn and go to sleep

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                        #12
                        Bisimoto's prices aren't rock bottom, but they are VERY reasonable for the quality you get.

                        Bisi is the one that showed us the true potential of the F22A. You could put your money into that and end up with a VERY potent motor. VTEC is nice, but not necessary for power... and it creates a fairly heavy valvetrain, and cramps the ports. The F22A has an extremely good port design (especially after some good head work), and a near ideal valve angle.

                        The Bisimoto F22A header will cost you nearly as much as an H22, but it will give you nearly 30whp (more if you have proper supporting mods, I'm sure.) With a Bisimoto header, Bisimoto camshaft, H23A intake manifold, and a tuned ECU, you'll be making H22A power or better.... for about the same price as the H22A swap.






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                          #13
                          Originally posted by deevergote View Post
                          Bisimoto's prices aren't rock bottom, but they are VERY reasonable for the quality you get.

                          Bisi is the one that showed us the true potential of the F22A. You could put your money into that and end up with a VERY potent motor. VTEC is nice, but not necessary for power... and it creates a fairly heavy valvetrain, and cramps the ports. The F22A has an extremely good port design (especially after some good head work), and a near ideal valve angle.

                          The Bisimoto F22A header will cost you nearly as much as an H22, but it will give you nearly 30whp (more if you have proper supporting mods, I'm sure.) With a Bisimoto header, Bisimoto camshaft, H23A intake manifold, and a tuned ECU, you'll be making H22A power or better.... for about the same price as the H22A swap.
                          you know, i really like that idea, being able to run a SOHC that has H22 power
                          Originally posted by rickyduckworth
                          that's pretty interesting. when i get that bored i just watch porn and go to sleep

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                            #14
                            It's easily done. However, it'd be really smart to put some money into restoring the engine before doing any performance upgrades. If you start pushing 50% more horsepower than stock, and it's still running belts, seals, etc... from 1992... You're asking for it to blow up!

                            However, take your time, do it right, spend the money necessary... and you could make 250whp (which is nearly 300 at the crank... that's 350z power right there) and still have a car that's not terrible to drive on the street.

                            Bisi's F22A is making over 450whp... of course, it's a full race motor, built by a genius.






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                              #15
                              true. wdo you know off hand what the figures im looking at for running a good, daily motor that will handle business at the stop light?
                              Originally posted by rickyduckworth
                              that's pretty interesting. when i get that bored i just watch porn and go to sleep

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