lowering problem ?

[dz636on1]

got a 93 accord , i have coilovers, the bump stops have been removed , but it seems that the car is bottoming out and not on the tire ? it has 16'" xxr 002 with 195/50/16 i want to lower the front another 1/2 inch? would love to show pics having problem up loading them ? Q. is has any one have this problem i was told by some its your upper control arm bottoming out you have to cut a area in the wheel well so the upper control arm can travel more ? any ideas just raining have not look yet trying to get a heads up

[deevergote]

You removed your bumpstops? Not smart. Your shocks are most likely blown, and the shock is bottoming out. I assume that you've lowered your car on stock shocks as well, correct? Also not smart. Quite dangerous, actually.

The upper control arm will only hit when you correct your camber.

[dz636on1]

yes has camber kit , yes stock shocks, yes blown , ?????????

[93blackcb7]

so how low is your car like how much of a gap is there by the wheel well or is there no gap at all

[dz636on1]

Maybe a finger or Finder even with the tire , looking to tuck the tire a little ?not alot but a little

[deevergote]

If the camber is set to 0 degrees, then your upper control arms are hitting. They always do, unless you're BARELY dropped. I wouldn't cut your wheel well unless you want to weaken a critical area of your chassis. You can bang it out a bit, or you can run -1 degree of camber. Unless you're completely slammed, that should fix that problem.

If you removed your bumpstops, your shocks are bottoming out. Lowering on stock shocks, especially 20 year old shocks, is extremely dangerous. Not a smart thing to do at all. You should replace those right away. Get a set of stock bumpstops, and cut them in half. You need SOME bumpstop in place.

Oh, and if your camber kit is a $30 ebay special, I suggest replacing that with SPC or Ingalls as well... if that kit breaks on you, you will crash. I know this firsthand.

[dz636on1]

Thank u ! That's what I wanted to hear , any struts you guys have in mind ?

[deevergote]

Koni STR.T if you're on a budget. Koni Sport (otherwise known as Koni Yellow) if you can afford something better. I wouldn't get anything made by KYB or Tokico (other than the Tokico Illumina, but they're nearly as expensive as the Koni Sports, and not quite as good.)

[drunken monster]

When I put the coilovers on, we cut half the bumpstop off and threw it back on. How much would those Koni STR's run me? Are there any cheaper?

[deevergote]

Expect to pay about $65 each for them. www.neuspeed.com has some of the best prices I've seen.

I woudln't trust anything cheaper. Blown shocks, or shocks that aren't properly matched to your springs, can result in unpredictable handling and braking. Blown shocks drastically increase the risk of crashing.

[sohc4door]

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If you removed your bumpstops, your shocks are bottoming out. Lowering on stock shocks, especially 20 year old shocks, is extremely dangerous. Not a smart thing to do at all. You should replace those right away. Get a set of stock bumpstops, and cut them in half. You need SOME bumpstop in place.
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i have quite a problem then haha. im slammed on no bumpstops. heres a question, do they make aftermarket bumpstops for lowered cars or is it better to just cut the bumpstops?

i also run the camber that i lowered from stock. it looks like VW camber.

[deevergote]

Just cut the bumpstops.

"VW camber"? No, it's just the trend among idiot VW drivers to have slammed cars with crazy negative camber. It will destroy your tires, obviously.

[sohc4door]

Just cut the bumpstops.

"VW camber"? No, it's just the trend among idiot VW drivers to have slammed cars with crazy negative camber. It will destroy your tires, obviously.

i know this lol ive been through a few sets of tires. i have many things on my suspension i wanna fix before i get an alignment or it wil be for no benefit

[deevergote]

Any time you mess with your suspension, you risk throwing the alignment off. Even if you're doing a simple bushing replacement. HOWEVER, putting off the alignment because you have more things to do will only cost you more money in tires by driving around with bad camber (and possibly bad toe.)

Since the Firestone lifetime alignment deal costs about as much as one pair of decent tires, it's well worth it. Then you can go and get your wheels aligned every time you do anything.

[sohc4door]

all firestones do this? ive never heard of it before you brought it up here haha