how is this inefficent. it would be done almost exactly like a real top mount manni and megan headers are only like 120$ if you just cut, weld and do it right it could be major hp gains.
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yes i know what a megan header looks like. i also know that it is made of mild steel, and will very likely crack when used for turbo. that top part you plan on using is 4-2. the lower half is where the 2-1 merge is. you would need to merge into 1 pipe for the turbo inlet. that bit of welding isnt cheap. not if its done well. to use the merge on the megan header, you would basically need to use the whole thing. THEN you would be routing a pipe back up for your "top mount", which would be a hell of a lot of pipe for the exhaust gas to travel through. in traveling through this mild steel header, much of the heat and velocity will be lost. its that heat and velocity that spool your turbo. wrapping will help but that only increases the chances of that header cracking. now the pipe going to your turbo is going to be where your exhaust system starts, so youre going to need to make some sort of custom fit piping to go to the exhaust from the turbo. that will also get pricey.
is it just me, or have i put more thought into your project than you have?
how about a front mounted turbo?
Last edited by Dani Filth; 10-04-2010, 03:52 PM.
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here is how i would do it.
then the down pipe to turbo
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homie it was an idea. you dont have to sit here and "try" to insult me. i have thought about this..............all day ok!.......but seriously insults are counterproductive...Comment
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and yes it is possiable. and trust me i know how to weld....
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Originally posted by Dani Filth View Postyes i know what a megan header looks like. i also know that it is made of mild steel, and will very likely crack when used for turbo. that top part you plan on using is 4-2. the lower half is where the 2-1 merge is. you would need to merge into 1 pipe for the turbo inlet. that bit of welding isnt cheap. not if its done well. to use the merge on the megan header, you would basically need to use the whole thing. THEN you would be routing a pipe back up for your "top mount", which would be a hell of a lot of pipe for the exhaust gas to travel through. in traveling through this mild steel header, much of the heat and velocity will be lost. its that heat and velocity that spool your turbo. wrapping will help but that only increases the chances of that header cracking. now the pipe going to your turbo is going to be where your exhaust system starts, so youre going to need to make some sort of custom fit piping to go to the exhaust from the turbo. that will also get pricey.
is it just me, or have i put more thought into your project than you have?
how about a front mounted turbo?
plus this is mainly for drag im looking for an all around!Comment
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the front mount was a joke. though it makes more sense than what you are proposing.
how am i trying to insult you? ive provided more resons NOT to do what youre saying, and you havent addressed any of them but a small part of the fitment issue.
i didnt even get into the strength of that megan manifold. you expect it to hold the weight of a turbo through that snake of a pipe you plan on welding to it?
aside from fitment, which will result in very ineffecient performance, the material that the megan header is made of will become an issue very quickly. it will crack due to heat and/or weight. dont forget, your engine isnt stationary. it will be taking that snakey pipe of yours with that heavy fluid filled turbo hanging off of it and snapping it around like a whip.
if you want turbo, and you dont want to spend a lot of money... just use a DSM manifold. it will be much more reliable, and perform much better than what you are proposing here.
Also, have you noticed the "edit" button at the bottom of your posts? you can use that, instead of making a new post every time you think of something new to add. try it. its fun. i just did.Comment
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This has fail written all over it.
Turbo and cheap in the same thread. Fail fail fail.Comment
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yeah. i try not to post too much but some things just need to be said.
cheap and turbo can be done. you just have to know what youre doing and know where to cut corners. honastly, cheap for a turbo system shouldnt be less than 1000.
building a custom manifold out of cheap parts that will not withstand the heat or weight is a bad idea. fitment issues are gong to be a bitch with this proposed design. your exhaust piping is going to have 3-4 more bends in it than necessary, and you are most likely going to be running it directly under your water pump and timing belt. heat wears out rubber parts, and that pipe will be throwing quite a bit of heat. if you are going cheap, that pipe will also be crush bent, which will produce additional backpressure. that will reduce turbo performance, and put more strain on the turbo itself.
need i continue?
saying i have put more thought into this than you have is not intended to be an insult. the fact that i have posed all of these potential problems and you have absolutely no defense of your design other that saying you can weld is simple evidence of that.Comment
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why not just get this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...3301&viewitem=
since you said you can weld, you can go back over and check all the weld points yourself and fix any weaknesses you may see.
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what about if you can weld, make your own alternator bracket like ESP
and move it lower, would have to have no AC. then just twist the piping
to go over to where the alternator normally resides?
seems like it would work. the straight forward approach just seems as if there isn't enough room.
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Because he wants a top mount. this would basically be a bottom mount. honestly, i don't see the point to the top mount anyway. it offers no benefits.Originally posted by mcdizzle View Post
i would go with a dsm manifold, or that obx manifold is fine on a budget. that thing is 250. a megan header would be 120, and additional parts and fabrication costs would easily add up to that much again, i'm sure. obx doesnt make the best stuff, but i think it would be a hell of a lot better than a ghettofabbed megan header.Comment
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wow havent you ever just wanted to make something on your own? god its like your just shooting everything down and trying to use big words to sound smart.
for the last time IT WAS A IDEA stop tring to crucify me cause i have on kiddo!
im going to do it. im going to have the first top mount f22a on here and your going bow to me son.....IT WILL BE BIBLICAL!!!
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