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    #31
    Originally posted by jimwards17
    This is kind of off topic, but what's the best way to refill the trans after you drain the old fluid out?
    I didnt have a tube to use, so i used a turkey baster, it did alright. Ive been meaning to get some Honda MTF, but as bad as it sounds, i dont have $15 for 2 qts. haha, ive heard from the honda techs it does make a noticable difference, like smoother shifting and quieter while in gear.

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      #32
      Yea I filled it thru the vent tube on top because the damn fill bolt wouldn't come off, and I happened to have a funnel that fit perfect on the vent.
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        #33
        Originally posted by Accrdwgnguy View Post
        Yea I filled it thru the vent tube on top because the damn fill bolt wouldn't come off, and I happened to have a funnel that fit perfect on the vent.
        That bolt can be hard to break free. My impact tools can't fit in there so I use a 17mm closed end wrench that has a 19mm closed end on the other side. Sprayed the bolt a good 10 seconds with CRC FREEZE OFF, then hammered on the wrench for a bit. Nothing doing.

        So I took a chain with an "S" hook on the end of it and hooked it around the 19mm end of the wrench, hanging the wrench as close to verical as possible, then ran the chain under the front of the bumper and then *pulled* on the wrench with all my strength/weight. The wrench fell off the bolt and clanged to the pavement and I stumbled half a step backwards.

        So I got down to put the wrench back on the bolt and discovered that the bolt had broken free. Either the CRC Freeze off finally worked or the pulling on the chain method worked.

        One thing I didn't try (actually didn't occur to me) is hooking another wrench to the 17mm wrench to double the lever arm. Next time I'll give that method a try.

        Make sure to put copper or aluminum sealing washers underneath both the fill and the drain bolts before replacing them to help ensure that the fluid doesn't leak out.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Accrdwgnguy View Post
          Yea I filled it thru the vent tube on top because the damn fill bolt wouldn't come off, and I happened to have a funnel that fit perfect on the vent.
          Same exact thing here man. The fill bolt was stripped years ago and I've changed it 2-3 times using the overfill tube I have this skinny funnel I use. It fits over the tube in such a way that the fluid doesn't leak out.

          I've said this a crapton of times...I had a very persistent 3rd and 5th gear grind that totally went away (even during winter) when I used Honda MTF. It works like Synchromesh but is formulated for Honda transmissions. I thought I was going to have to replace my tranny honestly. At the time I was using a synthetic oil (Mobil 1), which I've heard is one of the worst fluids to use in a transmission.
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            #35
            Originally posted by batever View Post
            That bolt can be hard to break free. My impact tools can't fit in there so I use a 17mm closed end wrench that has a 19mm closed end on the other side. Sprayed the bolt a good 10 seconds with CRC FREEZE OFF, then hammered on the wrench for a bit. Nothing doing.

            So I took a chain with an "S" hook on the end of it and hooked it around the 19mm end of the wrench, hanging the wrench as close to verical as possible, then ran the chain under the front of the bumper and then *pulled* on the wrench with all my strength/weight. The wrench fell off the bolt and clanged to the pavement and I stumbled half a step backwards.

            So I got down to put the wrench back on the bolt and discovered that the bolt had broken free. Either the CRC Freeze off finally worked or the pulling on the chain method worked.

            One thing I didn't try (actually didn't occur to me) is hooking another wrench to the 17mm wrench to double the lever arm. Next time I'll give that method a try.

            Make sure to put copper or aluminum sealing washers underneath both the fill and the drain bolts before replacing them to help ensure that the fluid doesn't leak out.
            Well mine is stripped now soo, I'm thinking of trying the stripped bolt tools from Craftsman, which has worked every time something was stripped. They literally bites into the bolt. But to be honest, it's easier using the overfill tube. Filling it using that bolt was always awkward. I had to use that funnel that has the clear tube at the end, then put another tube over that because it wasn't long enough. Ugh..
            Last edited by Velocifero; 03-20-2010, 08:44 PM.
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              #36
              ive used the honda mtf on my cd5 it was great!! it masked my 3rd and 5th gear grind.

              im a little worried about using it on my cb because i heard that the honda mtf was meant for use in transmissions with paper matierial synchros. im pretty sure our trans has brass synchros.

              if somebody can confirm this i would appreciate it

              thanks

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                #37
                fro re-filling...wal mart sells this little pump, it's in the marine oil section, that connects to the bottle...if you take the gray piece off the tip, the clear plastic fits RIGHT over the breather tube...worked like a charm. Slow though...course I zip tied it to a small funnel and just let it pour in like that.
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                  #38
                  you also could fill it through the back up sensor hole. Just remove the back up sensor and insert a funnel so you don't make a huge mess.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by deevergote View Post
                    GM Synchromesh is also fantastic. I know people that prefer it over the Honda fluid. I currently run that myself.
                    i noticed ZERO difference when switching from royal purple syncromax transmission fluid and honda MTF
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Velocifero View Post
                      Well mine is stripped now soo, I'm thinking of trying the stripped bolt tools from Craftsman, which has worked every time something was stripped. They literally bites into the bolt. But to be honest, it's easier using the overfill tube. Filling it using that bolt was always awkward. I had to use that funnel that has the clear tube at the end, then put another tube over that because it wasn't long enough. Ugh..

                      You're supposed to use the fill plug to get the fluid level correct, 2 quarts isn't always right and you don't want it to be too high or too low. I'd recommend buying a new plug from Majestic Honda and replace it.


                      Originally posted by hovo1788 View Post
                      ive used the honda mtf on my cd5 it was great!! it masked my 3rd and 5th gear grind.

                      im a little worried about using it on my cb because i heard that the honda mtf was meant for use in transmissions with paper matierial synchros. im pretty sure our trans has brass synchros.

                      if somebody can confirm this i would appreciate it

                      thanks

                      You heard wrong, the new MTF specifically states on the bottle that it's compatible with every Honda MT. Switch to it and you'll never look back!
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                        #41
                        ok sweet!!! thanks!! ^^^^

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by 19dabeast85 View Post
                          You're supposed to use the fill plug to get the fluid level correct, 2 quarts isn't always right and you don't want it to be too high or too low. I'd recommend buying a new plug from Majestic Honda and replace it.
                          Actually it's exactly 2 US quarts according to the official prelude manual:



                          Which is what I've been using as a reference. I should get a new plug though...When I get a job
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