i can't figure it out...

[92whiteboicb7]

okay so i have a 92 ex 5 speed. 182xxx completely stock.


okay so recently ive been having this problem with the car just shutting off while driving. and so far ive replaced the fuel filter. the fuel pump kicks on so ive check that. and ive replaced the spark plugs and wires...made sure that was done to spec. then i replaced the ignition coil the distributor cap and rotor...and ive redone the terminals on the battery...im clueless on what to do next...when it dies...it wont turn right back on...it will after like 20 minutes tho...but the battery light and oil light and check engine light come on...and i was gonna check for codes in the car with a scanner...but realized that i couldnt check it with that. and i havent gotten a real do it urself on the hotwire code thing u needa do the the computer under the dash on the passengers side...and i havent found anything similar to what i got with everyone else on the internet...so i was wondering if anyone can help me or lead me in the right direction...

[WilliamW]

search for "Main Relay" that's probably your issue.

[movingslow]

the ignitor in the distributor could be going bad. sounds like when it coos off it will start working again. usally the main relay will kill the feul pump so if you hear the pump running it's probaly not the relay. next time it does it check to see if you getting fire to the plugs. just take a good screw driver & put in the plug wire & hold the shaft close to one of the valve cover bolts & see if it sparks. (don't touch the shaft of the screw driver during this process) if it don't have any spark i would put an ignitor in it.

[92whiteboicb7]

yeah ima try the icm tomorrow... so im reading and thats in the distributor right??

[accordwolf]

Might also want to check your mass air flow sensor, it went bad in my old cb7 and it would drive awhile then just cut out and not turn over for awhile. It's worth checking.

[cb7trancebeast]

Honda doesnt use mass air flow sensors
sounds like the ignitor

[WilliamW]

Usually with ignitors, when they stop working, they won't come back on. I'd check it anyway, but thanks to our wonderful repair manual if everything checks out on the ingitor unit, then it could still be bad and they tell you to take it to a dealership. It's crappy.

[steelbluesleepR]

as for checking the CEL's, its really easy. pop the passenger kick-panel off (you may need to take off the plastic rocker panel cover also). you should find a 2-wire connector with nothing connected to it. with the car completely off, put a jumper in the connector so it connects the two prongs to each other. i've used a small piece of string, sheet-metal, a paperclilp, etc. it doesnt really matter what you use, just as long as you can keep constant contact with both prongs. now turn your car to run but dont start it. your check engine light should be blinking. if it isnt, check your connections and wiggle them around until it does. your CEL should blink in a series of long and short blinks. a long blink stands for a 10 and a short blink stands for a one. for example it if flashes "long, long, short, short, short" it is code 23. multiple codes can be displayed, it just waits a second or 2 in between codes. if it is only one code, it will be repeated until the jumper is removed.

now as for what the code means, here is the list:
1 O2A - Oxygen sensor #1
2 O2B - Oxygen sensor #2
3 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
4 CKP - crank position sensor
5 MAP - manifold absolute pressure sensor
6 ECT - water temperature sensor
7 TPS - throttle position sensor
8 TDC - top dead centre sensor
9 CYP - cylinder sensor
10 IAT - intake air temperature sensor
12 EGR - exhaust gas recirculation lift valve
13 BARO - atmospheric pressure sensor
14 IAC (EACV) - idle air control valve
15 Ignition output signal
16 Fuel injectors
17 VSS - speed sensor
19 Automatic transmission lockup control valve
20 Electrical load detector
21 VTEC spool solenoid valve
22 VTEC pressure valve
23 Knock sensor
30 Automatic transmission A signal
31 Automatic transmission B signal
36 traction control found on JDM ecu's
41 Primary oxygen sensor heater
43 Fuel supply system
45 Fuel system too rich or lean
48 LAF - lean air fuel sensor
54 CKF - crank fluctuation sensor
58 TDC sensor #2
61 Primary oxygen sensor
63 Secondary oxygen sensor
65 Secondary oxygen sensor heater
71 random misfire cylinder 1
72 random misfire cylinder 2
73 random misfire cylinder 3
74 random misfire cylinder 4
80 Exhaust Gas Recirculation insufficient flow detected
86 ECT Sensor (Engine Coolant Temperature) circuit range / performance problem
90 Evaporative Emission Control System leak detected in the fuel tank area
91 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor low input
92 Evaporative Emission Control System insufficient purge flow

i got all of this information from the Diagnosing Check Engine Lights DIY here:
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=21259

[hellajdm1023]

ignitor for sure

[accordwolf]

Honda doesnt use mass air flow sensors
sounds like the ignitor

Seriously? Then whats the little green sensor that plugs in by the intake on the injectors? o.o

[Losiracer2]

its definitely the ignitor, my car was doing this back in Nov 06', along w/ not starting sometimes when it was hot. So I had the ignitor, main relay and a bunch of other ignition components changed such as wires, plugs and a valve adj. since at that point in time, 155k, it hadn't been changed (ICM and Main Relay)

[scotty91]

its the main relay up under the driver side dash same thing happend to my car

[92whiteboicb7]

Well thanx everyone on your input! i didnt think i was gonna get this much from asking, but i did! lol but it was the icm after all...i took it out and it was all black on the metal part of it. and it was mad corroded on the whole thing. but it seems to be working fine now! now that its working properly. i can start dropping money into it! thanx everyone!

[cb7trancebeast]

Seriously? Then whats the little green sensor that plugs in by the intake on the injectors? o.o

Thats called the idle air control valve buddy >_< . When our cbs have an idle surge and they begin to idle funny that is the main cause of it.

[slik90accord]

my car was doing the same thing i checked everything and nothing changed the oxygen sensor and its good as new