f22b1 motor swap questions

[LuiGi_2191]

I'm lokking to swap my f22a1 motor to the f22b1, I know that motor drops right in with no mods besides the ecu and harness. The only questions I have are what main vacum lines do I need and do the headers fit onn both of these motors?

[C91BLX7]

Why?

[pedroalcala]

Why would you want to swap an f22b1? the f22a flows way much better than f22b especially the head on of the f22a, IMHO the f22b are shit, might as well go h22, h23 or f20a vtec if you want power and daily driving, or build your f22a instead. i recommend you do the h22, h23, f20a vtec or keep you f22a and build it instead of the f22b. good luck

[LuiGi_2191]

Cause the b1 motor has more torque and 20 more horses.

[LuiGi_2191]

I might have to stick to my f22a1 then, deffenetly don't want the h22a1 that's to common around these accords, plus I wana beat a dohc with a single

[pedroalcala]

So. you can make that much by just building your f22a. f22b flow like shit. You would make at least 20-30 horse power to the wheels with : h23 intake manifold, cold air intake, headers(especilly the bisi headers, and a good cat back and a NEO synt oil and a p12 ECU from the prelude with you f22a. and if you want more out of you f22a put in some WEB racing cams like it did, that thing would push at lease 35+ to the wheels. f22b's dont have that much potentiol there only made for accord so they wont waste that much fuel. f22a all the way bro. please do not go with f22b. if you f22a is healthy then bulid it, f22a has more power and potentiol than f22b. i know what im telling you.

[shadowdlink]

IF your want a slightly more powerful and torquier engine, just install a stage 2 bisimoto cam on your F22a engine. That's what I'm planning to do, aside from a rebuild and a junkyard turbo setup when I get the money.

[pedroalcala]

i recommend WEB racing cams instead. but thats just me tho

[rx7-boss]

hi guys im doin the same swap this guy plans also. i noticed that he is getting pretty much ragged on instead of advice like he asked for.. where are the mods at on that one. anyways im looking for advice and how too on this same swap simply because i have burnt valves and too save the down time on my car i got a cheap engine f22b1 off of a buddy. i plan too take my time and build my a1 back up from scratch. but if you guys could give me advice on this i would apprictiate a how too or even direct me somewhere i can find a thread on how2. thanks alot..

[alkoholikwun]

everybody hates on the B1, but personally i dont mind it, needed a motor at the time and money was a problem.

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...ght=f22b1+swap

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...ght=f22b1+swap

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...ght=f22b1+swap

[deevergote]

F22B1 for performance.

It's a reliable, efficient engine... but it's trash when it comes to performance. The install difficulty is about equal to that of an H22, but the performance gains are negligable. As for performance potential when you modify it, it falls considerably short of the F22A.

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=138663
There's a walk-through if you want it.

As for the header, no. The F22B1 exhaust ports are different. You cannot use the F22A header on there. Same goes for the intake manifold (which means you can't use the H23 intake manifold upgrade as you can on the F22A)

Do this:
Get an H23 intake manifold
Get the PT6 ECU from an F22A6
Get a cam regrind from Delta... 272 or 260, depending on how wild you want it.

Those three things will cost you roughly $250... less, if you can shop smart. Those three things will result in more power than the F22B1, while retaining the considerable upgrade potential of your F22A.



If you want to beat a DOHC with your SOHC... DEFINITELY stick with the F22A.
Check into products from Bisimoto. Especially the header (which is on sale right now, as long as we can get people involved in a group buy...) that makes 27whp on an otherwise STOCK F22A (that one part would make more power than your headswap). The Bisimoto camshafts are also amazing, as Bisi himself uses the F22A to race his pro-drag Insight (which runs low-9 second quarter mile passes, and holds numerous world records)

[91accordEXF22B1]

I Put A F22b1` In A 4gen Accord Only Problem 4 Me Is Wireing Any Help Would Be Nice

[MR.PHIL]

I Put A F22b1` In A 4gen Accord Only Problem 4 Me Is Wireing Any Help Would Be Nice

just use your stock wire harness(the one that came with the car)

[alkoholikwun]

I Put A F22b1` In A 4gen Accord Only Problem 4 Me Is Wireing Any Help Would Be Nice

when taking out the original motor, its best to keep the original engine harness connected to the original motor. once the motor/harness is removed from the car, check each plug locations on both motors then attach as necessary.

[robert@bisimoto]

F22B1 for performance.

If you want to beat a DOHC with your SOHC... DEFINITELY stick with the F22A.
Check into products from Bisimoto. Especially the header (which is on sale right now, as long as we can get people involved in a group buy...) that makes 27whp on an otherwise STOCK F22A (that one part would make more power than your headswap). The Bisimoto camshafts are also amazing, as Bisi himself uses the F22A to race his pro-drag Insight (which runs low-9 second quarter mile passes, and holds numerous world records)

The Bisimoto's F22A1 is the world's most powerful N/A Honda engine in the world. This demonstrates the capabilities of the F22Ax. The head on the f22a flows better then the F22b.