car is struggling up hills

[batever]

out of all those things, I know how to check none of them

don't worry, you'll learn.

It does sound like it could be an issue with the tranny, so first check the error codes.

Anyone know how to test the Transmission Control Unit for codes? I'm not sure how. But try using the search function on TCU.

[dakiid]

Its all in your tranny it sounds
Try useing Sport Mode

drove it today and it handled the 2 hills without a problem while in sports mode

don't worry, you'll learn.

It does sound like it could be an issue with the tranny, so first check the error codes.

Anyone know how to test the Transmission Control Unit for codes? I'm not sure how. But try using the search function on TCU.

ok will do, thanks

[dakiid]

make sure you have tranny fluid first, check while the cars runnin...then if you need to add some fluid put some Slick50 high milage in it. PeAcE DO NOT do a tranny flush! you will lose your tranny...

Im blind.
I was looking for it today but wasnt sure which one it was. Can I get a general location it is located in?
Again im sorry Im so nooby but Im eager to learn. And thanks for telling me what brand to get, I look into it this week.

Edit: this is it right?
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[dakiid]

o ok I saw it when I was in there today. I go pick up some this week and put some in.
Thanks

[CB7Man]

DO NOT PUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN GENUINE HONDA ATF-Z1!!!

Your transmission WILL fail.

If your transmission is totally bombed, you can sometimes use these to get you home, however they leave residue and it builds up quickly inside the transmission. Especially DO NOT use Lucus transfix. It is formulated for larger/less refined american automatics.
I told a rebuilder I had used Lucus in my tranny. He told me to throw it away, the lucus makes rebuilding near impossible.

I tried this stuff, nothing cures a good problem like doing a drain and fill every paycheck 3 times, with GENUINE Honda ATF-Z1
Harshness in shifting went away, the tranny no longer bombed into reverse.
Shifting was more at the correct times.

Just putting the tranny in Sport Mode makes a HUGE difference in how it drives.

All you need to do:
Drain and fill tranny
Drive in sport mode

I use Sport Mode around town, it keeps the car in 3rd gear until 40mph
Non sport mode 4th gear is at 30mph, yes forth gear
non sport mode attempts to keep the RPM's as low as possible for Economy purposes. What your doing at 2200rpm is useing what little torque the engine has to climb the hill rather than HP (fuel eating)
If you get slow enough the tranny will pop into 1st and youll start useing HP rather than torque

Damn I rant lol

[batever]

DO NOT PUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN GENUINE HONDA ATF-Z1!!!

2x on this, stick with using Honda ATF before going outside the box. IMHO. Your problem could be as simple as having old tranny fluid in there, no reason to start adding transmission additives in there without trying the basics first.

Or you could have no problem at all and just be unfamiliar with the way this tranny operates.

If the car bogs out at 2200 on the hill, note the MPH. It could be because the engine output combined with the gear in use just make the car top out at that speed on the hill, and it really has nothing to do with a "transmission problem" per se. It's just the power limit of the vehicle at that rpm and gear. Now if you drop the gear and get into a higher rpm, say around 3000-3500, you will find you have much more power output and can go faster and even accellerate up the hill.

Or, in standard automatic mode, as an experiment, once on the hill and kind of stuck speedwise, increase the gas pedal a lot, which will cause the tranny to drop to a lower gear and it should drop to the next lowest gear and the car should start accellerating a little again. (not intended as a daily technique, just a test)

OR manually shift to 3rd or 2nd. (I don't actually drive an auto accord so I don't know all the manual shift options on it, and I don't know what speed you are driving at, so use your judgement. don't rev the car past 5000 on any kind of regular basis is my advice, even though the redline starts at about 6000.). You will find that this will give you more power up the hill.

As others have noted, using the Sport Mode is the way to get around this problem automatically. The standard auto tranny mode is intended for fairly flat driving conditions and times when you don't need the best accelleration. The Sport mode moves all the shift points up in RPMS to give you faster accelleration and more power, at the cost of fuel efficiency, and might be the right choice on a big hill if you find that you are bogging down.

But drain out and change the tranny fluid with Honda ATF before driving the car a lot, particularly since you don't know the last time this was done.

[batever]

im goin on 3 yrs with Slick50 h/m tranny fluid, no problems so far! I guess ive just been lucky Also alot of shops such as Quicky lube wont touch any Tranny Flush jobs if your car has over 100k miles. So i did what i had to do @ the time and 3yrs later tranny still kickin ass. (knock on wood)

The stuff could be great. All I'm saying is it makes sense and is the most conservative approach for the OP to try making sure he has drained and refilled with conventional Honda ATF before jumping to an aftermarket product that may or may not be good for/compatible for his tranny. Sounds like yours is working fine for you though.

[CB7Man]

They will sell you rat poison, they dont care if it works or not....

Prolonging the life of an Automatic is as simple as installing an oil cooler period.

[dakiid]

For power you need air, fuel, spark, correct
Is your air filter clogged? change it.

Air filter is simple to check..
Unscrew your box, and peek inside. If its dirty, its robbing your power because of restricted air flow.

ok guys, today I got my screw driver and opened up the box and removed the air filter. It was in bad shape. Half of it was completly black and I found parts of leaves, sticks, and lots of dirt in between each of the filter things. I looked online and found a way to clean it so I did that and Im going to put it back in tomorrow morning. Im going to try and get another one because its in bad shape, has a few holes. But I take it for a spin and see if it drives better now that all that dirt isnt restricting airflow.

Underthe glove box, on the right wall of the passenger side, there is a small connector handing down with 2 holes in it. YOu have to get down on the floor to see it.. this is the service connector. Take a bent paper clip or a staple or something and plug both end into the holes.

When the connector is jumpered like that it does a numb er of things, but one thing is it tells the car's ECU (electronic control unit, the computer that runs stuff in the car) to tell you what the error codes are.

Now turn the ignition to the "on" position. The check engine light on the dash will blink a series of long and short blinks. long long short is 21. long short short is 12.

like that.

write down the codes and let us know what they are.

And take the jumper wire out of the service connector before driving the car.

going to try tomorrow

make sure you have tranny fluid first, check while the cars runnin...then if you need to add some fluid put some Slick50 high milage in it. PeAcE DO NOT do a tranny flush! you will lose your tranny...

I checked and It doesnt need any fluid, but the fluid was a dark brown color, no redness at all.

DO NOT PUT ANYTHING OTHER THAN GENUINE HONDA ATF-Z1!!!
I tried this stuff, nothing cures a good problem like doing a drain and fill every paycheck 3 times, with GENUINE Honda ATF-Z1
Harshness in shifting went away, the tranny no longer bombed into reverse.
Shifting was more at the correct times.

Just putting the tranny in Sport Mode makes a HUGE difference in how it drives.

All you need to do:
Drain and fill tranny
Drive in sport mode

I use Sport Mode around town, it keeps the car in 3rd gear until 40mph
Non sport mode 4th gear is at 30mph, yes forth gear
non sport mode attempts to keep the RPM's as low as possible for Economy purposes. What your doing at 2200rpm is useing what little torque the engine has to climb the hill rather than HP (fuel eating)
If you get slow enough the tranny will pop into 1st and youll start useing HP rather than torque

Damn I rant lol

ok so far sports mode makes it shift better on hills so
going to go find some Honda ATF and start draining and refilling. I read that it should be done about 4 times. What do u guys think? and how long do I have to wait between each drain and refill before I drain again? I read that I should go run the car through all its gears before I refill but should I wait a week or so also?


Thanks everyone, Im having a good time working on my car.
and thanks to the great members of this site, it will be alot easier learning about my CB7.

Edit:also is it true that Honda ATF is only sold at dealers? If so how much do they usually charge you and d they keep it stock or have to order it?

[Vtec1nspir3dCB7]

ok guys, today I got my screw driver and opened up the box and removed the air filter. It was in bad shape. Half of it was completly black and I found parts of leaves, sticks, and lots of dirt in between each of the filter things. I looked online and found a way to clean it so I did that and Im going to put it back in tomorrow morning. Im going to try and get another one because its in bad shape, has a few holes. But I take it for a spin and see if it drives better now that all that dirt isnt restricting airflow.

Be sure the filter is COMPLETELY dry before putting it back. It would be HIGHLY advisable to just get a new one.

I checked and It doesnt need any fluid, but the fluid was a dark brown color, no redness at all.

ok so far sports mode makes it shift better on hills so
going to go find some Honda ATF and start draining and refilling. I read that it should be done about 4 times. What do u guys think? and how long do I have to wait between each drain and refill before I drain again? I read that I should go run the car through all its gears before I refill but should I wait a week or so also?


Thanks everyone, Im having a good time working on my car.
and thanks to the great members of this site, it will be alot easier learning about my CB7.

Edit:also is it true that Honda ATF is only sold at dealers? If so how much do they usually charge you and d they keep it stock or have to order it?

1. Just drain. When its done dripping, fill back. DO NOT run your car without fluid... i don't know where that info came from...
From what i know, (this is here in tn) honda and evans are the only ones that sell Honda ATF-Z1.

[dakiid]

Be sure the filter is COMPLETELY dry before putting it back. It would be HIGHLY advisable to just get a new one.


1. Just drain. When its done dripping, fill back. DO NOT run your car without fluid... i don't know where that info came from...
From what i know, (this is here in tn) honda and evans are the only ones that sell Honda ATF-Z1.

yea im going to try and get one tomorrow but if not I have to use this one for awhile.
Im letting it dry over night and then in the morning I let it sit in the sun for a lil while on both sides so it will be dry

And I meant after I drain and refill, then drive it. not drain and drive. I read that you should drain, refill, drive for a week or so. then drain and refill and drive for another week or so. What do you guys suggest?

[Vtec1nspir3dCB7]

2 times should be ok. It depends on how long that old fluid was in the tranny case...

[dakiid]

ok put the filter back in. it drove alot better. my friend was there when I put it back on and when we took it out for a spin, he also said it feels better. Im going to try to get a new one tho because this one is in bad shape.

so so farm sports mode and cleaning the filter is helping it drive better up hill and overall. Next thing im gonna do is try to get the Honda AFT.

[Vtec1nspir3dCB7]

Sounds great. Glad your car is running better.

[dakiid]

is this legit?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Genui...Q5fAccessories