Re-did timing belt, some seals - wants to stall at throttle touch

[js593]

So i just did the timing belt again, oil got all over it, so it needed to be done. Got the new belt, slapped it on, and when you touch the throttle, it just wants to keel over and die, could the cam be off by one tooth?

[wed3k]

you mean you didnt check the cam and crank synchronization when you did the timing belt?

it shouldnt be a question, thats how valves get bent.

[dano28]

"Slapping" on a timing belt will not be to your advantage..

[js593]

you mean you didnt check the cam and crank synchronization when you did the timing belt?

it shouldnt be a question, thats how valves get bent.

Ive had it on stands for 2 days, checking everything over and over. Cam and crank are dead on now, they were off before. Here's the problem, when i turn over the motor 6 rotations via the crank, there is nothing hitting the pistons, but when i return it to the white mark near on the flywheel, its almost as if it just doesnt want to line up. almost as if when it tentions the belt, it isnt good enough or something. It after i tighten down the tentioner it doesnt want to line back up. Now it could be just me, but i dont have 2 lines on my cam pulley so its kinda hard to see, but i never had this problem with my old belt.

Any advice?

Nevermind, finally got it on the 8th try.

[js593]

Ends up it looks like something else. I put everything back on, and it still wants to stall out when you just tap the gas. all the marks line up, so im not sure what to think at the moment. I'll take a 2nd look at it tomorrow, adn even have work look at it.

[wed3k]

messed with tps yet? condition of spark plugs?

this happened to me after an automatic transmission R&R and the car would choke upon start up and die wheveer i got on the gas. turns out the plugs havent been serviced in a million years.

[js593]

messed with tps yet? condition of spark plugs?

this happened to me after an automatic transmission R&R and the car would choke upon start up and die wheveer i got on the gas. turns out the plugs havent been serviced in a million years.

Plugs arnt that old, and looking at them, they dont look bad. Their white. however, from what im looking at now, the cam was off by 1/2 a tooth. yes, half. im not sure how, but im hoping that was it. TPS was replaced just a month ago (maybe a bit more) as well as converted to BOLT-ON tps. So if you want me to take it off, i just have to pull the TB bolts off. The plugs i have in there are Platinum ones. But for it to cause a complete stall, im told its definitly a timing issue.

While i was doing all this work on the accord, i also cleaned up my tentioners. They were caked with oil and crud inside, so they werent springing up like they were supposed to.

Ive attached 4 pics of where the cam WAS, and i will upload a few more once they upload to my photo bucket. (on a USB 1.0 system right now lol....)


Thanks Wed for the help so far.

[wed3k]

because you know you are supposed to dial your TPS in whenever you change it?

if you have a vacuum guage, plug it into one of the free nipples on the back of the intake manifold, starrt car and monitor the guage. it should be steady and in between 17-21 in-hg.

[js593]

because you know you are supposed to dial your TPS in whenever you change it?

if you have a vacuum guage, plug it into one of the free nipples on the back of the intake manifold, starrt car and monitor the guage. it should be steady and in between 17-21 in-hg.

Unfortunatly i dont have a vacume gauge Any way i can go by resistance with a meter?

[wed3k]

Unfortunatly i dont have a vacume gauge Any way i can go by resistance with a meter?

well, the vacuum gauge thing and tps were two seperate things. you can see how well the engine is running via vacuum.

for the TPS, you are supposed to tap into one of the three wires for the tps, leave ignition to II and test voltage at closed throttle and WOT.

i believe there's a DIY on it.

[js593]

well, the vacuum gauge thing and tps were two seperate things. you can see how well the engine is running via vacuum.

for the TPS, you are supposed to tap into one of the three wires for the tps, leave ignition to II and test voltage at closed throttle and WOT.

i believe there's a DIY on it.

Sounds good.
When i got my vacume tested before, he said it was at 20. Which was perfect. This however was a while ago.

Here are the pics i have with the cam ajusted.



Lemme know if thats in the right place. since i have that plate in the back, its kinda hard to see if its dead on.

[wed3k]

the pictures are really blurry. back up a tiny biit.

[js593]

the pictures are really blurry. back up a tiny biit.

im pretty sure im all good now. Im warming it up now. No signs of anything like before. Other then maybe an Fast idle valve that needs to be cleaned. Gonna take it for a quick spin.

[jaykilla116]

dummies

did you make sure there is enough coolant?

[js593]

did you make sure there is enough coolant?

First off, Dont be callin anyone dummies until YOU tackle a timing belt job. (If you have, you SHOULD know how much of a pain in the ass it can be when you slip one thing off.)

The coolant was the first thing i checked. right after i did my timing belt.
Even though its a *possibility* it would have to be dreadfully low, so low that the engine would probably overheat before throwing a code.
Considering the fact that i also check my fluids EVERY morning before starting my car, i knew for a fact it wasnt the coolant. And since it started happening right after i finished the timing belt again, that kinda gave it away.