what would be the best setup for the best gains? im not concerned with price. would an h22a or a f22a with turbo be better? any help would be great!
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its all a matter of opnion and all a matter of how much your really willing to sink it to itYou don't have to like what he did, but I would hope that you can appreciate the time, money and love that went in to the build. If you can't, you're not really an enthusiast, just another dumb kid with a car.
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agreed depends on what u want and how much money u wanna spend. it u want cost effective then go with the f22a it will be plenty funComment
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Since you're not concerned about price, start here http://bisimoto.net/store/index.php?...roducts_id=203 and boost it.Comment
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^^ That is only the beginning, if you stick with the cb7 chassis, your going to have to do alot of structural re-inforcement, then figure a way to get that power to the ground like 4wd.Comment
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i want it to be a daily driver though... a fast daily driver!Last edited by cb7devin; 03-22-2009, 09:25 PM.Comment
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Both the h22 and f22 can take you there, f22's are easier to boost due to lower compression ratio, its really a matter of what you want... do you want to go naturally aspirated; or forced induction?Originally posted by cb7devin View PostComment
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most def forced induction - turbo!Comment
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Stock F22a turbo 8-10psi would be safe for daily driving, and give you excess of 200whp & tq with ease, but if you want something that will last a long time, its best to build the block. If cost doesn't matter, contact Bisimoto. Tell him your goals, and what you want, and he will build you an engine that should outlast a stock f22a under the same conditions, and will net you more power.Comment
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lets say price did matter than what would be the best route?Comment
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Are you going to be doing all the work yourself, or using a shop? If you already have an f22ax motor, you could turbo it for the same money as an h22 swap.
Or you do like I do, fix/replace things that break on the car with better quality parts, or use a service interval like a timing belt job to take care of some upgrades like my a6 conversion. My exhaust system is reaching the end of its life, so I will be upgrading that after the a6 conversion. So when my headgasket starts to go, I will send my spare a6 head out for p&p, upgrade the valvetrain, then slap that on my motor, with bisi headers.Comment
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i would like to do most of the work myself. i have a garage with lifts and all the tools you can think of, the stuff im sketchy with i would bring to a shop. i just dont know what i need or dont need and where to start.Comment
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As I understand it...the benefits of the f22 are:
Iron sleeves (forged piston issue), good flowing head, availability.
The h22 has frm sleeves, which doesn't get along with forged pistons. F22 has iron sleeves, forged pistons no issue.
Also f22's are EASY to come across in the jy, not so with h22 (for me anyway) I'm in po-dunk Texas and I know of 3-4 f22's in one yard right now...h22's...not one in the 3 jy's around me.
Also the f22 head flows pretty good stock...I believe if flows better than the h22 head STOCK but I'm not 100% on that.
The h22 can handle boost as well don't get me wrong, it's just the forged pistons issue. If you don't get forged pistons then you could have ring land issues with boosting stock pistons.
There is a point at which you'll have to sleeve even the f22 but for starters you're fine...at that point it's a matter of bowing the cylinder walls and not an issue with forged pistons.
Also, each engine could use headwork, the f22 just flows better stock as I understand it...correct me if I'm wrong. But this runs $900+ for that kind of head work
If money is no problem then get the h22, get the headwork done, re-sleeve it, forged internals, get some engine management and have fun.
As for me, I would use the f22 as you can spend your money on forged internals, keep the stock sleeves...unless the current sleeves are out of round and worn cause then you'll need to re-sleeve any way...course...since I HAVE an f22 it would still be cheaper to work on it than buy an h22.__
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i have an f22. so i guess i should just turbo that?Comment
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If price isnt anything, get away from this F/H nonsense and look into the new mounts made by hasport that you can swap a K24 into the CB.Comment
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