Can someone give me a complete list on what to buy for this swap? i just pick up a rear end crash auto 95 accord EX for 200 bucks and well... this is will be my first swap project. Would everything just be interchangeable? I dont have to buy like a obd0 obd1 conversion? Sorry im more use to civics then accords.
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You dont need an obd1 conversion or any of that. All 90-93 Accords are obd1 (correct me if Im wrong). Just do a good search on here and you will find what you need. -
Nope, it'll pop right in. um, they have Vtec, so it might be a good idea to use the f22b1's computer also. Not sure if you'd have to wire vtec?
Check out this post man, it also has a few helpful links from people.
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...t=f22b1+wiring98' Mustang 3V Swap
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i might have missed it but what are you swaping the motor intoComment
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My guess is a 90 Accord, by his name... Which model CB7 doesn't have an impact on how it's done. Of course, manual/auto could make a difference.
Be advised that the F22B1 is not really an upgrade. The motor has less potential than the F22A in your car right now. If I were in your position, I'd sell the motor and part out the rest of the car for money to dump into the F22A.
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Damn deev you are all about that F22a hahaha! But it dont pop right in. You gotta notch out the driver motor mount I think....Comment
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It's more like I'm against the SOHC VTEC F series engines. They really suck... Someone talking about the SOHC VTEC "upgrade" is as bad as hearing "why don't you put a B18 in there?" to me!
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Originally posted by deevergote. View Post It's more like I'm against the SOHC VTEC F series engines. They really suck... Someone talking about the SOHC VTEC "upgrade" is as bad as hearing "why don't you put a B18 in there?" to me!
Man you have never said it better.....I got a 5th gen with the F22B1....it sucks....I would rather upgrade my 5th gen to a F22A6....lol....and sell that SOHC VTEC to someone else!
Nitrous is like a hot chick with a STD..... you know you wanna hit it, but you are afraid of the consequences.....
...Zex wet kit, 65 shot, dual purge, JDM H22...pure sex! .....I owned 8 CB7's in one year...top that JARHEAD...lol
...this thread has been graced by the new CB7 King
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I can respect an F22B1 in a 5th gen, simply because that's what came in the car. Plus, I run CD5tuner.com, and I can't think bad about those guys!
It's not a motor worth swapping. If you need a replacement, or you already have it... make the best of it. But it's not an upgrade. At all.
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You right Mike I should't talk bad about the motor since I love my 5th gen, but well I hate it....lol. This is my first time experiencing one and I "did" think it was faster or better than a F22Ax at one time. Then once I got in and drive the car I was like WTF...give me my 93 Accord Se back...too late now though. I do plan to put a H22 in the 5th gen whenever this F22b1 blows....which may be never, this motor doesnt have a single leak and only has 160K on it....it may very well run forever!Originally posted by deevergote. View PostI can respect an F22B1 in a 5th gen, simply because that's what came in the car. Plus, I run CD5tuner.com, and I can't think bad about those guys!
It's not a motor worth swapping. If you need a replacement, or you already have it... make the best of it. But it's not an upgrade. At all.
Nitrous is like a hot chick with a STD..... you know you wanna hit it, but you are afraid of the consequences.....
...Zex wet kit, 65 shot, dual purge, JDM H22...pure sex! .....I owned 8 CB7's in one year...top that JARHEAD...lol
...this thread has been graced by the new CB7 KingComment
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Yeah, don't get me wrong... the F22B1 is an AMAZING motor for what it was designed to do... which is give good gas mileage and last forever... Maintain that thing, and you'll never swap an H22 in there!
It's just... not a performance motor. The VTEC system and emissions requirements caused the engineers to design the ports and valve angles in a way that doesn't allow for a significant increase in airflow.
The F22A, on the other hand, has the potential to flow MUCH better than a simple family sedan motor should! The port design is fantastic, and the valve angle is nearly ideal. The exhaust ports are the biggest restriction on the F22A head. Open those up, and major gains will be seen. Continue to properly port and polish the entire head, and do a good valve job... and it'll be significant. Add a nice cam, bump up compression, toss on the proper quality bolt-ons, and tune that sucker... and join the ranks of 250+whp F22As that are on the road
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i have seen a few builds on this site and yet have i seen one that has gotten 250 at the wheels??? not hating it just seems rare. i wish i went with a f22a motor now verse the b1 but the b1 is still a good upgrade compared to the d16 i had in my car 1.6<2.2 but in your case hell you have the parts already just go for it it will be the same speed as before(in stock form) and build a f22ax on the side then swap it with a built one.Originally posted by deevergote. View PostYeah, don't get me wrong... the F22B1 is an AMAZING motor for what it was designed to do... which is give good gas mileage and last forever... Maintain that thing, and you'll never swap an H22 in there!
It's just... not a performance motor. The VTEC system and emissions requirements caused the engineers to design the ports and valve angles in a way that doesn't allow for a significant increase in airflow.
The F22A, on the other hand, has the potential to flow MUCH better than a simple family sedan motor should! The port design is fantastic, and the valve angle is nearly ideal. The exhaust ports are the biggest restriction on the F22A head. Open those up, and major gains will be seen. Continue to properly port and polish the entire head, and do a good valve job... and it'll be significant. Add a nice cam, bump up compression, toss on the proper quality bolt-ons, and tune that sucker... and join the ranks of 250+whp F22As that are on the roadComment
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There are at least a handful of Bisimoto customers around or above the 250whp mark with NA F22As.
The F22B1 is a great 145hp motor for an efficient, reliable vehicle.
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The F22B1 is a great 145hp motor for an efficient, reliable vehicle.[/QUOTE]
plus when VTEC hits it has like an extra 100 whp
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Nitrous is like a hot chick with a STD..... you know you wanna hit it, but you are afraid of the consequences.....
...Zex wet kit, 65 shot, dual purge, JDM H22...pure sex! .....I owned 8 CB7's in one year...top that JARHEAD...lol
...this thread has been graced by the new CB7 KingComment
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