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i know neutral drops on my auto arent good, but....

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    i know neutral drops on my auto arent good, but....

    powerloading of course would be the safest thing to do, but if a neutral drop would gain me a better ET would it really hurt it that bad?

    i only want to know for track purposes. daily driving i hardly ever even hit vtec. no need for even a powerload.

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    #2
    Simply put - Yes It will hurt.
    The clutch packs can't handle that amount of loading, Combined with the fact that the box is already 16-18 years old


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      #3
      Neutral drops are the perfect equation for Catastrophic Failure*
      Unless you have an infinite supply of trannys laying around... I'd go for the safe route... You don't wanna spill guts on the track...

      Justin
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        #4
        Originally posted by Justin Patton View Post
        Neutral drops are the perfect equation for Catastrophic Failure*
        Unless you have an infinite supply of trannys laying around... I'd go for the safe route... You don't wanna spill guts on the track...

        Justin
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          #5
          just put one foot one the brake and the other on the gas that would be better for safety on the tranny and do about the neutral drops.

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            #6
            thanks guys.
            i figured as much.
            i'll keep my tranny safe.

            does anyone have an ideal engine speed to dump the brake?

            i'll figure it out in the morning on the way to work.

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              #7
              Powerloading an automatic tranny at a specified rpm really depends on the stall speed of the torque convertor. I know alot more about old school muscle car trans than the honda. But lets say for example you had a camaro with a 3500rpm stall convertor in it, then basically you could load it to that speed before the convertor engages. The reason for a higher stall convertor is to be able to launch at the specified rpm where the engine is making its power, not very streetable though. I dont know if higher stall convertors are available for the hondas autos. I wouldnt do it all the time or for prolonged periods of time a honda auto. But if you were racing and want to reach stall speed then hold onto the brake and bring engine rpm to where you can start to feel the car wanting to pull. At green mash the throttle and release brake. You can mash the brakes as hard as you can and giv more throttle but your clutch pack suffers. While your in gear and the torque convertor is below stall speed it spins freely with the engine. Once stall speed is reached it engages and transfers that energy to the transmision. If the engine is turning and the toruqe convertor is engaged and your not moving then where do you think all that energy goes? It goes right to the clutch pack, they are draging in there and create very high trans temps very quickly. A neutral drop on the other hand sends that energy directly to the drivetrain in an instant. I used to have a 1968 buick GS, I used to think neutral drops were fun until my driveshaft flew out from under my car one day.

              off topic - That is a beutifull car in your sig. I want some sawblades bad. What color blue is that? Sexy car

              Or is that black and im just colorblind right now?
              Last edited by totaldoughnut; 09-18-2008, 03:12 AM.
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                Originally posted by totaldoughnut View Post
                Powerloading an automatic tranny at a specified rpm really depends on the stall speed of the torque convertor. I know alot more about old school muscle car trans than the honda. But lets say for example you had a camaro with a 3500rpm stall convertor in it, then basically you could load it to that speed before the convertor engages. The reason for a higher stall convertor is to be able to launch at the specified rpm where the engine is making its power, not very streetable though. I dont know if higher stall convertors are available for the hondas autos. I wouldnt do it all the time or for prolonged periods of time a honda auto. But if you were racing and want to reach stall speed then hold onto the brake and bring engine rpm to where you can start to feel the car wanting to pull. At green mash the throttle and release brake. You can mash the brakes as hard as you can and giv more throttle but your clutch pack suffers. While your in gear and the torque convertor is below stall speed it spins freely with the engine. Once stall speed is reached it engages and transfers that energy to the transmision. If the engine is turning and the toruqe convertor is engaged and your not moving then where do you think all that energy goes? It goes right to the clutch pack, they are draging in there and create very high trans temps very quickly. A neutral drop on the other hand sends that energy directly to the drivetrain in an instant. I used to have a 1968 buick GS, I used to think neutral drops were fun until my driveshaft flew out from under my car one day.

                off topic - That is a beutifull car in your sig. I want some sawblades bad. What color blue is that? Sexy car

                Or is that black and im just colorblind right now?
                thank you sir.
                this is the first explanation of how torque converters work that actually makes sense to me.

                thanks for the props on my ride.
                the color is cobalt blue.

                late.

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                  #9
                  yeah you'ld be like me dropping a new tranny because of he previous owner. I knew the guy that sold me my new accord, paying for it. but it runs good now.

                  Marry Jane

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                    #10
                    I have only found 1 place for a torque converter for our CB7's and its at wwww.f22parts.com and its not cheap. I've got 1 in mine and love it. Hope this helps you out a little bit.
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Justin Patton View Post
                      Neutral drops are the perfect equation for Catastrophic Failure*
                      Unless you have an infinite supply of trannys laying around... I'd go for the safe route... You don't wanna spill guts on the track...

                      Justin
                      thats how i got my CB, kid f***ed up the trans doin neutral drops and shifting the trans like it was a manual. he broke the flexplate in two and the car stopped running. he wanted to donate it and get a $1000 tax writeoff, but he had taken 3 rims off gave the battery to friend who was going to "buy" it from him. and had deregistered it and had it parked it in his jobs parking lot. i got when the job started hassling him about having a junk car. i paid his parking tickets off and got keys/title from him. the rims were still inside the car (thank god) so i called a buddy to tow it to my storage locker and figured out the flexplate was broken and replaced it and went through the tranny. now it runs and you should see the look on his face
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                        #12
                        yeah may be fun one or two times but NOT WORTH BREAKING UR CAR

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                          #13
                          i had a civic i did a 5spd swap on back in tha day. before i did the swap i was able to do i think 12 neutral drops before the auto broke. given the tranny had over 300,000 on it. lol it was fun.

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