Ebay ECU chip? Fake?

[FNEG]

Thank you all for the input. I was not going to get that I was just wondering if it really does anything.




That website has been down for at least 6 months

http://forum.pgmfi.org/
here ya go

[FNEG]

sorry didn't see deevergote posted it

[illestatus]

i love chips, specially the the bbq ones

[Gotz Cb7]

I had a kid said his car's so fast, blah blah....and I pretty much told him he'd have a very hurt ass, when an Auto 4 door accord pulls on him, and he said.."yea right, I can flash my Ecu....go from 180hp to 350...easy", Funniest thing I've heard yet to date. Fun times.

As for the ecu chip, don't do it. I'll admit, those Ebay people can really sound like it's worth it, and really works. haha, assholes.

[rodriguezyadir]

what;s up man......that ecu makes run better

[SE_DynamiK]

yeah i agree on the thumbs down to the ebay chip and going for a chipped ecu ftw.

[deevergote]

TUNED chipped ECU.


Too many people think they can just grab a chipped ECU and slap it in the car... each modified ECU has to be tuned for the specific engine it's running, or it won't be right. It may not always do damage, but it won't be of any benefit (especially on stock or mildly modified engines).

[d112crzy]

I don't know what the F22B1 ECU is. Like other Accord ECUs, it's not able to be modified. If you want VTEC ability on a modified ECU, the P28 would be used. The P06 can be converted into a P28, but that's well beyond the scope of this thread.

Running a CB7 on a stock Civic ECU is a bad idea. DO NOT EVER USE A STOCK CIVIC/INTEGRA ECU IN YOUR CB7! Yes, it may not kill it to idle... but drive it like that, and you're likely to see some damage. If you've tried it, and haven't done any damage... you're lucky. You're not proving me wrong.

Additionally, the F22B1 is a garbage motor. It's a downgrade from the F22A.


As for pgmfi.org... the forums are still working fine. http://forum.pgmfi.org/

The owner had some legal issues with Hondata, and it caused some MAJOR problems for the site.

Give me some dyno money and I'll prove you otherwise. I'll dyno any engine you want with i/h/e. First I'll dyno with a stock ecu, then I'll dyno it tuned. An H22 would have the biggest hp change.

[deevergote]

Give me some dyno money and I'll prove you otherwise. I'll dyno any engine you want with i/h/e. First I'll dyno with a stock ecu, then I'll dyno it tuned. An H22 would have the biggest hp change.

I'm not saying there are NO gains... but honestly... not much. Not worth the cost to a near-stock engine. Dyno an H22 with I/H/E (normal production stuff... Bisimoto excluded) and tune it... and you MIGHT gain 10hp. Worth it? Not really... not if your mods cost $1000 combined, as a dyno tune session would cost more than it's worth.

Add cams and a Bisimoto or SMSP header, ok... then I'll say it's worth the money.

[d112crzy]

Eh..kinda true. That depends on where you do your shopping.

Most people would just buy offline where they found it first. Which usually ends up being top dollar.

Dyno runs really aren't that expensive anymore. $75 for an hour, or 50 for 3 pulls.

The ECU and tuning does get expensive tho.

[hondamanf22]

I was looking at the same thing when I typed in p12 on ebay. I dont buy it I"d rather go to a tune shop and gett it done right.

[deevergote]

Eh..kinda true. That depends on where you do your shopping.

Most people would just buy offline where they found it first. Which usually ends up being top dollar.

Dyno runs really aren't that expensive anymore. $75 for an hour, or 50 for 3 pulls.

The ECU and tuning does get expensive tho.

Yeah, either you're paying someone who knows what they're doing a ton of money to do it for you (if it's not the dyno operator, then it's on top of the dyno time), or you're wasting your time on the dyno trying to figure things out. Even a somewhat experienced street tuner will need some time to get accustomed to a dyno. Street tuning isn't done for maximum power, since you don't know what you're making. You can only even out the fuel curve (which usually makes power if the engine is running rich anyway). You can do stuff on the dyno that you can't really do effectively on the street.

If you don't have mods significant enough to make a decent amount of power, there's NO point in dyno tuning. If you unearth 10hp from a dyno tune... for $500+... no thanks. Yes, I know exhausts and headers sell for more than that and make around the same power... but they're static parts (where MORE power can be pulled by tuning). If you add one part to a tuned engine, you've then altered what the tune is for, and you should retune.

I need a garage... and a lift... and a dyno... Someday!