Ebay ECU chip? Fake?

[AbsurdNY]

Just stumbled across this listing. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=370079349139

I read some of this guys feedbacks and people seem to really notice the difference. Do you think this really works? Probably just makes the mixture a little richer or something right?

[mcdizzle]

not worth it, it just leans out the fuel with no real tune. better off saving the money and getting a chipped p06 to tune with later on down the road

[totaldoughnut]

Yeah ive read the same thing. Those fleabay chips just lean it out, not good. Chipped p06 seems the way to go.

[deevergote]

There isn't much you can do to the stock Accord or Prelude ECUs. Anyone that says different is an idiot or a scam artist.

Generic chips are NEVER a good idea. A custom tune should be for YOUR motor, and not anyone else's.

[Ghostyman]

x2 with the "don't get it" crowd.

Check the classifieds and such. I have a chipped P06 shipping out to me that I got for $45. If you buy a non-chipped ECU and have any skill with a soldering iron, you can do the mods yourself.

Probably just makes the mixture a little richer or something right?

Richer mixture == less power. Leaner == more power.

Too rich == smoke from exhaust, safe for motor
Too lean == detonation, blown motor

(basic rules, there is a lot more to it)

[ExplodingCake]

Wow this thread is a total Deja Vu for me. wtf!

[deevergote]

x2 with the "don't get it" crowd.

Check the classifieds and such. I have a chipped P06 shipping out to me that I got for $45. If you buy a non-chipped ECU and have any skill with a soldering iron, you can do the mods yourself.



Richer mixture == less power. Leaner == more power.

Too rich == smoke from exhaust, safe for motor
Too lean == detonation, blown motor

(basic rules, there is a lot more to it)

Rich is safer, usually... as it suppresses detonation. However, too rich can seriously gunk up your motor. Running extremely rich for any extended period of time can introduce a whole host of major issues!

Rich is safer than lean in most cases, for sure... but should never be seen as a long-term "safe" condition.

[tn_accords]

Rich is safer, usually... as it suppresses detonation. However, too rich can seriously gunk up your motor. Running extremely rich for any extended period of time can introduce a whole host of major issues!

Rich is safer than lean in most cases, for sure... but should never be seen as a long-term "safe" condition.

i think that sums it up...

ebay chips = bad !!

just deal with what you have and save up money for a chipped ecu and then get a tune !! best way possible.. trust me it makes a very big difference even if you are not modded in any way !

[deevergote]

Eh, not really true (I know you tune, Jacob... but there's not much to be had from a tune on a car with minimal mods...) The best you'll get from a street tune on a lightly modified car is a few extra MPG... which is pretty nice, I must say

[FNEG]

go to the junk yark and get a po6 then to pgmfi.org and reasearch on chipping and get a parts list(i paid 20 bucks for everything at radio shack for it all but a blank eprom ) then get some balls and chip it yourself then take the money that you saved chipping the ecu yourself and add 100 bucks to it then drive to a tune shop and be happy when you leave these f series motors are shocking me at just what a good tune can do for them

[autowrecker17]

What is that PO6 out of? why so special?

[deevergote]

*sigh* Does no one use Google anymore?


The P06 comes from a 92-95 Civic LX/DX. Accord and Prelude ECUs cannot be "chipped" and tuned, so we have to use Civic and Integra ECUs. The P06 is the cheapest, most common ECU that we can use, and it's perfect for the F22A. The others, such as the P28 and P72, are used on VTEC motors like the H22A.

[AbsurdNY]

Thank you all for the input. I was not going to get that I was just wondering if it really does anything.

go to the junk yark and get a po6 then to pgmfi.org and reasearch

That website has been down for at least 6 months

[autowrecker17]

thats funny, my friend was haven truble with his 92 civic he thougnt it was the ecu, i took it and plugged it in my car and started it, he was like WTF?! i was like "its not the ecu, try again" hmmm. what about ecus for f22b1?

[deevergote]

thats funny, my friend was haven truble with his 92 civic he thougnt it was the ecu, i took it and plugged it in my car and started it, he was like WTF?! i was like "its not the ecu, try again" hmmm. what about ecus for f22b1?

I don't know what the F22B1 ECU is. Like other Accord ECUs, it's not able to be modified. If you want VTEC ability on a modified ECU, the P28 would be used. The P06 can be converted into a P28, but that's well beyond the scope of this thread.

Running a CB7 on a stock Civic ECU is a bad idea. DO NOT EVER USE A STOCK CIVIC/INTEGRA ECU IN YOUR CB7! Yes, it may not kill it to idle... but drive it like that, and you're likely to see some damage. If you've tried it, and haven't done any damage... you're lucky. You're not proving me wrong.

Additionally, the F22B1 is a garbage motor. It's a downgrade from the F22A.


As for pgmfi.org... the forums are still working fine. http://forum.pgmfi.org/

The owner had some legal issues with Hondata, and it caused some MAJOR problems for the site.