Question about purchasing exhaust parts

[Lord Les]

Are either of these a good deal??

http://tinyurl.com/6s5qzr

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/pts/810314713.html

I've never bought exhaust parts before and I'm really stingy!

[deevergote]

A good deal as in inexpensive? Certainly.

A good deal as in you're going to like the way it sounds? Probably not. Both are cheap garbage parts.


If you're stingy, then you've picked the wrong hobby. You're going to end up with a car that looks, sounds, and performs like crap if you keep buying cheapo parts. Buying fewer parts, but better parts, is a smarter way to spend your money.

[H22Artman]

Are either of these a good deal??

http://tinyurl.com/6s5qzr

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/pts/810314713.html

I've never bought exhaust parts before and I'm really stingy!

the CL post might be a good deal depending on the brand of the pipes.

the CL poster doesnt say anything about it tho.

if its any name brand system then i'd say its probly worth it.

the Ebay is garbage.
forget you ever saw that.

[Lord Les]

If you're stingy, then you've picked the wrong hobby.

Good point. I've looked over the sticky about exhaust and seen some of the gear that other people are running. But I don't recall seeing any prices. Thanx for the input and I'll keep looking!

[FNEG]

you can only pick two:
reliable
fast
cheap

[H22Artman]

you can only pick two:
reliable
fast
cheap

cheap and reliable??
never heard of it.

[deevergote]

If you want a header that looks nice and won't totally break the bank, go for DC Sports. Megan Racing and OBX are the lowest you should EVER go. Anything cheaper than those is trash. None of them will provide significant gains, so the only real reason to get one is for improved appearance... and maybe sound.
If you want performance, there's only ONE brand worth the money... and it's worth every penny. Unfortunately, it costs a whole lot of pennies. The price is very reasonable for what it is, but it's still quite pricey. That would be the Bisimoto header. It's a work of art, in both appearance and performance. If you had one, your car would certainly be humped on a regular basis.

Exhaust... A'pexi World Sport 2 is always my choice. I don't have one, but I envy those that do! It hangs low, though... so if you're slammed, it may be an issue when going over bumps. The GReddy SP is also a good choice. Tanabe makes some decent ones for us as well, though the only one I've ever heard was a bit loud and raspy for what I'd expect from a company that prides themselves on their sound.



Cheap exhausts sound like cheap exhausts. They rust like cheap exhausts. They fit like cheap exhausts.
Cheap headers leak, crack, and generally sound horrible.

[Lord Les]

[QUOTE=deevergote.;1632247]If you had one, your car would certainly be humped on a regular basis.QUOTE]

Thanx for the tips. I'm reading all I can. Narrowing down the choices makes life a lot easier. I really just want a quiet exhaust.

I'm probably going to keep the car mostly stock for now and just try to get it to normal operating status. I've had so many things to fix on it and lot's more to come (tires, brakes, transmission, speed sensor, exhaust, antenna, wheel bearings, etc)! Every time I turn around the car needs something else. But I'm enjoying working on the car and learning.

But one question: what is "humped"??? Ripped off?

[92vig]

the CL post might be a good deal depending on the brand of the pipes.

I have to DISAGREE with you on that. Big time. Pipe is pipe. You go to an exhaust shop and have them bend 2.5" pipe for you for your exhaust. You buy a cheap ass catback exhaust system. It's still mandrel bent pipe. Maybe the muffler's a cheap pos, but the piping has nothing to do with it. If it's some thin cheap ass metal they're using for the pipes, or the welds suck ass then it's a bad buy. But a friend of mine had a full catback Megan, yea cheap shit he got for like $100....pipes were solid as hell, nice welds, etc. Greddy mandrel bent pipe isn't going to give you more power over Megan mandrel bent pipe.

That's NOT to say that one has a straighter design than the other, which MAY result in better performance. But pipe is pipe as long as it's smooth and big, not jagged and small/restrictive like stock piping.

[deevergote]

But one question: what is "humped"??? Ripped off?

[totaldoughnut]

Ive been trying to do some research on headers for my f22a6. I found a few that say they are carb legal. I checked out the bisimoto header, amazing! Maybe a noob question, but would the bisimoto be legit at a smog station? If not, then which ones would be and are they any good?

[H22Artman]

I have to DISAGREE with you on that. Big time. Pipe is pipe. You go to an exhaust shop and have them bend 2.5" pipe for you for your exhaust. You buy a cheap ass catback exhaust system. It's still mandrel bent pipe. Maybe the muffler's a cheap pos, but the piping has nothing to do with it. If it's some thin cheap ass metal they're using for the pipes, or the welds suck ass then it's a bad buy. But a friend of mine had a full catback Megan, yea cheap shit he got for like $100....pipes were solid as hell, nice welds, etc. Greddy mandrel bent pipe isn't going to give you more power over Megan mandrel bent pipe.

That's NOT to say that one has a straighter design than the other, which MAY result in better performance. But pipe is pipe as long as it's smooth and big, not jagged and small/restrictive like stock piping.

pipe is most certainly not just pipe.
you proved my point for me by stating that your boy got a "crap" system for 100bux and it had superior welds to the type "x" brand.

in terms of flow there is no difference between two brands UNLESS one has a proven superior design. but there are most definitely weight advantages over certain types of metals against another. along with longetivity and appearance depending on the effort put into by the manufacturer.


aluma coated mild steel crap is just that. it will rust over time. period. requiring replacement.
a nice set of stainless is far and away a better improvement over stock.
less replacement means less downtime.

my point was that DEPENDING (theres that word again) on what this particular CL poster claimed possesion of that it MAY or MAY NOT be a good buy.

DEPENDING not ASSUMING

these two terms are a killer in our world.
dont mix them up, it could cost you.

[92vig]

Which I said, unless it has a better flow design...well actually I said, straighter, which I thought would imply a better flow.

[H22Artman]

Which I said, unless it has a better flow design...well actually I said, straighter, which I thought would imply a better flow.

right.

so why are you disagreeing with me if it is potentially a good buy?

[deevergote]

Ive been trying to do some research on headers for my f22a6. I found a few that say they are carb legal. I checked out the bisimoto header, amazing! Maybe a noob question, but would the bisimoto be legit at a smog station? If not, then which ones would be and are they any good?

The Bisimoto header is not CARB exempt, as far as I know (I may be wrong). I don't know if it ever will be, as it is extremely expensive to make a product so. Most CARB exempt products are expensive for this very reason. The Bisimoto header is expensive due to the extremely high quality of the piece, plus the HUGE amount of research and engineering that went into it.

I believe OBX headers are CARB exempt. They're cheap, but they sell a metric butt-ton of them... which is why they can keep the price down. They make their money in volume.


The only header that offers any significant gains is the Bisimoto header. Get a larger collector welded to a DC Sports header, and it might provide decent gains... The DC Sports header is probably the highest quality "cheaper" header you're going to find. It is also CARB exempt.