Supercharge

[f22a4boy]

why is a supercharge cheap then a turbo with turbo kit?
there was a supercharge for like 500 and the turbo kit cost like fuckn 1500
why?
Is a supercharge better then a regular turbo?

[vinbon63]

Im not too sure exatly what you are asking but as for your last line "is a supercharge better than a regular turbo?" my answer is no. Superchargers are pulley driven and so have no lag as a big turbo would. However because superchargers are pulley driven, the car is ultimately robbed of power.

[f22a4boy]

so its not good for the car?
its not worth the money?

[Kurobei]

^ What he said...not too sure what you are asking but

Im not too sure exatly what you are asking but as for your last line "is a supercharge better than a regular turbo?" my answer is no. Superchargers are pulley driven and so have no lag as a big turbo would. However because superchargers are pulley driven, the car is ultimately robbed of power.

Superchargers aren't necessarily cheaper than a turbokit. For 500 dollars, you might be looking at the scamming Electric Charger fans that are put in between the intake and filter.

Depending on what engine you have...say for example a H22a. A jacksonracing supercharger kit can cost roughly 2900-3500ish depending on where u source it from.

Turbos can be cheap or not cheap. It depends if you buy a brand name kit or piece one together yourself. I've seen E-bay kits sell around 400-800 compete. It's not generally made for a specific car but more for the engine type. The main things you are getting from their kit is just the snail,manifold and wastegate and bov. The piping will do you know good unless it really is specific to your car because most come with universal U,L,I bend piping.. You can use a shit load of couplers to get it to work or better yet buy or get custom piping made for your vehicle so it will look and perform clean. You can also piece together a DSM kit for under $200-300 if you are lucky.

Powerwise, you can only go so far with a supercharger. To up boost, you have to change the pulleys. With a supercharger, depending on the condition of your engine, the max power output is almost predictable if you are running something like the jackson racing kit. So if you are only looking to make like 230-260HP to wheels on a stock n/a motor, then you would want something like a jacksonracing supercharger. With a turbo...all you do is crank up the boost and the HP variables are semi endless.

[vinbon63]

Well, give a little bit more details, is it for your cb? because I dont now of any superchargers that will work made specifically for our cars with out major modifications to the engine bay. Also give more specs on the s/c and the turbo, and exactly what your plans are.

[Kurobei]

so its not good for the car?
its not worth the money?

Don't think anyone said it's not good for the car...of course if your engine is tired it's wise to get it built or re-built to take a better beating.

Show us the $500 supercharger u are talking about. Oh BTW, there is no supercharger for our CB7 platform unless you go custom or shoehorn a jackson racing h22a kit which only 1 person seemed to have accomplished.

[deevergote]

Forced induction is additional strain on ANY engine. Only high-revving naturally aspirated engines have more stress placed on them.




There are no bolt-on supercharger kits for our cars. There are no cheap supercharger kits ANYWHERE that I'm aware of.


Do you understand what a supercharger is? It's not the "Tornado" or "Turbonator" thing that says "supercharge any car!" in the ads... A supercharger is a belt driven device that compresses air (or, in the case of a basic roots blower, creates greater displacement with minimal compression.) www.google.com www.wikipedia.com and www.howstuffworks.com. Type in "supercharger" and learn. Type in "turbocharger" and learn more.

[f22a4boy]

i cant find the website i found it from but it cost 500 its said something about the 1 psi
but i was asking why it was that cheap because i always wanted one for my
f22a4 engine thats was the only question

[deevergote]

Ah yes... the e-ram. That's not really a supercharger, though I guess in the strictest definition of the concept it is.

However, if you have one of those, you don't REALLY have a supercharged engine. You have a car with an electric fan placed in your intake.


Search those sites and learn a thing or two about superchargers and turbochargers (a turbo is basically a supercharger that's exhaust driven, rather than mechanically driven)
You'll be glad you did.

[f22a4boy]

is the e ram worth the money?

[deevergote]

If it was, you'd see quite a few of them around here.

They claim 1psi. 1psi is roughly 10hp. That's not a terrible gain. However, IF it does that much, it's still a drain on your electrical system. Also, it provides a significant restriction in your intake. It's worthless.


Do some reasearch on the "DSM turbo kit"... there's a lot of info about it on this board. If you understand what you're doing, and you shop smart, you can make your own turbo kit for $500.

[vinbon63]

I'd say save the $500 and put it towards something else. If you dont already have them work towards and intake, header and exhaust. I think you still need to learn a bit more before you move over to forced induction, and an IHE setup should taper off your want for more power in the mean time.

[f22a4boy]

do you have a turbo?

[deevergote]

You need to lear a LOT more before you want to put any sort of forced induction on your car... it's quite complicated. Whatever you can't do yourself will cost you a LOT of money to have someone else do for you.


I do not have a turbo, no. I will, but not on my CB7.


I do have a supercharged car in my driveway, though. Also not the CB7. (3 cars, I'll have one of each)

[Pandemic]

Dont buy eram. If you want, I can take your $500 and tell you how to make something as worthless as the eram.

Buy a ram air intake, headers, and catback system. It'll give you roughly 10hp and it'll make your engine more efficient.