r134a in 93 accords?

[10thcb7]

true dont mix r12 and 134, get a new bigger drier that will help with cooling a bit more

[ExCoupe92]

I know that. When he goes to the mechanic I'm sure he'll just hook up a system and walk away for 30 minutes so it can recover, evacuate, and recharge. I'm just meaning to say that he needs to change more than the compressor.

Like phoamy said, it's best to have a mechanic charge it up for you. After you do the conversion don't be fooled by autozone with their cans of refrigerant that say they recharge your system.

Not only will the refrigerant be contaminated that's in there resulting in a faulty a/c. But most people have the mantality that more refrigerant = colder air. Wrong. Most people I have seen will, once their a/c is full and they have excess in the can, they will just shoot the rest in.

With the overcharge of now contaminated refrigerant you will witness insufficient cooling.

edit: also, with every a/c service, it is common practice to replace the reciever drier in the system.

[NAiL05]

The AC/Drier as already ymentioned is a mandatory replacement when converting to 134a. You can find them for cheap at parts stores instead of OEM honda. Make sure anything you tear apart you seal properly. if you have a leak this would be a good time to replace the orings. The kit should cost around 10 bucks at the local parts store with tons of spare o rings.

[shaolin]

true dat

you guys are right. I talked to my guy and he did replace the drier as well. sorry for the confusion!

[10thcb7]

The AC/Drier as already ymentioned is a mandatory replacement when converting to 134a. You can find them for cheap at parts stores instead of OEM honda. Make sure anything you tear apart you seal properly. if you have a leak this would be a good time to replace the orings. The kit should cost around 10 bucks at the local parts store with tons of spare o rings.

which autopart are you talking about since most of those green o rings are about 5 bux ea

[Losiracer2]

personally, I would keep the R12 if you don't have any leaks to deal w/. yeah R134 is cheaper per can. But you'd have to do A LOT of converting to get it to function properly. And R12 is also more efficient, meaning it blows WAY colder.

I just had my AC recharged and it cost about 60 bucks and it blows 46* at the vents now. So i'm happy, esp. in AZ.

But yeah to do the conversion properly, you'd have to:

-vacuum out all the old fluid
-convert the dryer or at least get a new one since the old one is covered in R12
-new R134 oil
-new fittings

its just a hassle, and plus the guy that did mine charges more to diagnose a r134 system...or rather a flat fee of 114 bucks. If all you need is a recharge, then get the system recharged w/ R12. R12 isn't some rare earth refrigerant, there's still PLENTY of it left.

[NAiL05]

personally, I would keep the R12 if you don't have any leaks to deal w/. yeah R134 is cheaper per can. But you'd have to do A LOT of converting to get it to function properly. And R12 is also more efficient, meaning it blows WAY colder.

I just had my AC recharged and it cost about 60 bucks and it blows 46* at the vents now. So i'm happy, esp. in AZ.

But yeah to do the conversion properly, you'd have to:

-vacuum out all the old fluid
-convert the dryer or at least get a new one since the old one is covered in R12
-new R134 oil
-new fittings

its just a hassle, and plus the guy that did mine charges more to diagnose a r134 system...or rather a flat fee of 114 bucks. If all you need is a recharge, then get the system recharged w/ R12. R12 isn't some rare earth refrigerant, there's still PLENTY of it left.

Its a 20-30 minute if even that much time to swap over....Its not rocket science and whatever the world is runnin on is whatever r12 supplyy remains. When that runs out your gonna have to go to 134a either way.

[10thcb7]

R22 and R12 are still around and being made its just before you could buy it and vent it to the ozone to help with green house effects which btw affect the polar ice caps dramaticly, it is estimated that by this time next year we will no longer have a north pole! thanks industrial revolutions!

[lucid]

If you've had a couple prelude parts cars, it's pretty easy to get the compressor and drier. Please reassure my faith in human intelligence and tell me that having a different kind of fitting is something we make an adaptor for....that would be a retarded obstacle that will make me regret throwing prelude underhood lines away (Which probably fit our cars too). I have my heart set on a reliable stock conversion from one car to another and will not be stopped! The car already thinks it's a Prelude anyway.

[rcy]

Alternatively, you could recharge with one of the HC (hydrocarbon) refrigerants. Before you do, though, be aware that they are banned in some states (but not up here in Canada). I think there might be some stipulation that you have to change the fittings on the car to R134 (or some type of quick release) as well.

Here's one type of HC www.duracool.com and there are many others like Freeze 12 etc. One benefit of using HC is that it's compatible with either type of oil PAG (r134) or mineral (r12), so you don't have to blow your lines to get all of the mineral oil out like you do when converting to R134.

HCs are also more efficient (colder) than R134, but about equal to R12. You will also have less head pressure on the compressor with HC.

[southsidecb7z]

you need to change the fittings as well. You can't just swap on a new compressor and charge it. R-12 used a screw on fitting whereas the R-134a uses a quick disconnect.

Save yourself a step and drain all the excess refrigerant into the air we breathe. Our grandchildren will feel it but by then we'll all be wearing space suits to protect ourselves from harmful UV rays anyways.

[Todds91]

I just had mine coverted about three weeks ago for 145 out the door. But I needed a Condenser wich cost me another 300 installed and i also need a Evaporator which the shop quoted me a price of 200 installed but im waiting to see if i can get a junk yard or used one for cheap.

There for A/C can get very exspensive so you should be aware of that.

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645

PS: a lot of times the r134a fixes small leaks

[perdido420]

i used the kits at auto zone/advanced on my 93 jeep witch had r12 and it worked great no problens at all i ran with it for 3 years. I did not think that after 05 you could buy r12 with or with out a license?

[Losiracer2]

I just had mine coverted about three weeks ago for 145 out the door. But I needed a Condenser wich cost me another 300 installed and i also need a Evaporator which the shop quoted me a price of 200 installed but im waiting to see if i can get a junk yard or used one for cheap.

There for A/C can get very exspensive so you should be aware of that.

145
+300
_____
445
+200
____
645

PS: a lot of times the r134a fixes small leaks

see....this is what I mean! to the OP, If your AC is working fine w/ no leaks then just go to a shop and get it recharged. I considered converting, I rented all the vac. pumps, gauges, and bought a R134 recharge kit from autozone and it ended up being a HUGE trouble for me. Trust me, you don't wanna deal w/ this hassle. It took the A/C guy less than 10 min. to recharge my R12 and I was on my way enjoying ice cold A/C.

[NAiL05]

i used the kits at auto zone/advanced on my 93 jeep witch had r12 and it worked great no problens at all i ran with it for 3 years. I did not think that after 05 you could buy r12 with or with out a license?

Yea legit R12. I need to retake for another license apparentlyy IMACA went out of business lol so gonna go do the ASE one just in case.