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    #16
    Originally posted by 10thcb7 View Post
    just send it to a shop to have it rebuilt. get a nre oil pump h20 pump and all new seals and gaskets and bearings plus rings. have them write in the contract that they will show you the bearings and rings plus old oil pump and h20 for your own concern on how worn the items were, this is so you wont get cheated out of parts. take pictures of the old ones and the new ones to compare. Make sure uts a business that is BBB. After you do that and break it in I would do the DSM turbo kit. 8PSI max then talk about custom MAPS. for now just save up towards the labor and parts for the motor. dont buy things you dont need unless they break. save save save.
    Just curious what do you mean by "8PSI max then talk about custom MAPS"
    From a beginners POV they might see that as "Run 8psi on the stock ecu, then get a tuned map" - Just wanted to clarify that any boost requires a tuned ecu. Basemaps will work, but they can't be guranteed.


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      #17
      Originally posted by evil_demon_01 View Post
      Just wanted to clarify that any boost requires a tuned ecu. Basemaps will work, but they can't be guranteed.
      I can not argue, that is a valid point. Simply our motors are actually really well built from the factory. They have great compression for boost strong rods metal liners and have been able to push excess of 14psi on the stock internals dailly.I ment that it would be OK to run 8psi with out a tune, because it would. Just pull some timing and get colder plugs. 8 psi can not kill a freshly rebuilt motor after its break in. *wait acutally F22HB was running 8psi on a non rebuilt head and dropped a valve* eh w/e. Its up to you and your personal preferences. Want to turbo a 300K motor instead of making it reliable with a rebuild go ahead. Want to drop a JDM motor. Turbo it. Blow it up. Rebuild it. Turbo it. Crank it up. Fuck it up. Buy a bigger turbo. Blow it up. Rebuild it. Go ahead. Its all about you.

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        #18
        Originally posted by 10thcb7 View Post
        Want to drop a JDM motor. Turbo it. Blow it up. Rebuild it. Turbo it. Crank it up. Fuck it up. Buy a bigger turbo. Blow it up. Rebuild it. Go ahead. Its all about you.
        what???

        why blow it up? if you know anything about turbos and how they work then you wont be blowing anything.

        just as anything else in life, if you dont know what your doing you will fail.

        just cant be a greedy gus, find something decent and leave it alone. turbo builds arent about the most power, its about efficiency.

        good luck guy.


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          #19
          OK its up to whom ever owns the car to decide. You want to spend over 15K on your 18 year old car do it. You wanna go big and not home do it. Im going home. Ill take my sweet time doing it and wont think twice about that car jacker or accident that I just saw. If it were me Id just go with a proven method I would not try to pull a low dollar turbo (which is a name quite ironic seeing how a low budget cannot achieve 600HP from justa few grand) and spend crazy cash on tunning tires and transmissions.

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            #20
            Originally posted by 10thcb7 View Post
            OK its up to whom ever owns the car to decide. You want to spend over 15K on your 18 year old car do it. You wanna go big and not home do it. Im going home. Ill take my sweet time doing it and wont think twice about that car jacker or accident that I just saw. If it were me Id just go with a proven method I would not try to pull a low dollar turbo (which is a name quite ironic seeing how a low budget cannot achieve 600HP from justa few grand) and spend crazy cash on tunning tires and transmissions.
            lol ok go home.

            ill go big and flaunt it the whole way.


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              #21
              Originally posted by slammed4thgen View Post
              lol ok go home.

              ill go big and flaunt it the whole way.
              Ill be home doubting you will

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                #22
                Originally posted by 10thcb7 View Post
                Ill be home doubting you will
                haha enjoy your view.


                smoke tires, not drugs.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by 10thcb7 View Post
                  I ment that it would be OK to run 8psi with out a tune, because it would. Just pull some timing and get colder plugs. 8 psi can not kill a freshly rebuilt motor after its break in.
                  I dissagree - from your statement I gather use the stock ecu, retard the dizzy a bit, and throw in some colder plugs . . . If you want a blown motor, then yes this is a they to go.
                  Also 8psi CAN destroy a freshly rebuilt motor easily within a few minutes.
                  Imagine an untuned ecu at 8psi with an afr of say 18:1 . . . the detonation would sound like your passenger was shaking a toolbox full of ball bearings.

                  Do it once, do it right. Get a tuned ecu - That is all.

                  Also in reguard to your Lodollar comment - I think you will find his first build was a "lodollar" build hence the name.


                  Car Safety / General Servicing Checks --------Basic suspension checks

                  My 5.7 LS1 Holden Ute

                  A "Finished" project car is never finished until its been sold.

                  If at first you don't succeed, Try again. Don't give up too easily, persistance pays off in the end.

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                    #24
                    No motor is or ever will be bulit proof, so first off, let me say that when it comes to a turbo build, IMO the odds your H22 will blow up are the same as an F22. The only difference is that when the F22 lets go it costs you alot less money to be back on the streets.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by F22HB View Post
                      No motor is or ever will be bulit proof, so first off, let me say that when it comes to a turbo build, IMO the odds your H22 will blow up are the same as an F22. The only difference is that when the F22 lets go it costs you alot less money to be back on the streets.
                      he talks like he knows about Fs shitting on him

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by 10thcb7 View Post
                        just send it to a shop to have it rebuilt. get a nre oil pump h20 pump and all new seals and gaskets and bearings plus rings. have them write in the contract that they will show you the bearings and rings plus old oil pump and h20 for your own concern on how worn the items were, this is so you wont get cheated out of parts. take pictures of the old ones and the new ones to compare. Make sure uts a business that is BBB. After you do that and break it in I would do the DSM turbo kit. 8PSI max then talk about custom MAPS. for now just save up towards the labor and parts for the motor. dont buy things you dont need unless they break. save save save.
                        i doubt that after a rebuild break in and turbo with correct plugs and timming retard youll bow it up. Thats just me. I doubt 8 psi will kill a motor

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