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    vtec head

    this guy is selling me a vtec head for my car and he said he will install it for 450 just wondering if thats a good deal and also how much hp will that increase cause if not alot i think its no worth it
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    Whats your current setup?
    200SX SE-R w/ turbo lowport & S4 cams
    Versa SL 6 speed

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      #3
      Originally posted by 2dr_sentra
      Whats your current setup?
      im still stock the only real od that i have is a 2' exhaust from the headers

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        #4
        Originally posted by 2dr_sentra
        Whats your current setup?
        im still stock the only real od that i have is a 2' exhaust from the headers

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          #5
          what'd that vtec head off of? i'm thinking F22B1 or B2.

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            #6
            i think that's a little high for a f22 vtec head even if he installs it. besides the Ax head flows better.

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              #7
              The F22B1 head is absolute garbage. You'd be downgrading.

              The F22B2 is not VTEC.



              Even an H22A head swap wouldn't be worth it. It's a much better design than the F22B1, but without the rest of the motor to go with it, it's not nearly as good.






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                #8
                Just save up some more and get a Hdueceduece...
                Sig removed due to excessive size

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                  #9
                  So sick of people calling the B1 head absolute garbage. Is it as good as the F22Ax head? No. Is it complete and utter garbage? No. Does it do what it is intended to? Yes.
                  Originally posted by sweet91accord
                  if aredy time i need to put something in cb7tuner. you guy need to me a smart ass about and bust on my spelling,gramar and shit like that in so sorry.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by foamypirate
                    So sick of people calling the B1 head absolute garbage. Is it as good as the F22Ax head? No. Is it complete and utter garbage? No. Does it do what it is intended to? Yes.
                    everybody says that because their talking about it from a tuner standpoint. it's a head not worth swapping in to make power. i don't think anyone in here denies it will make good gas mileage, but it sure isn't the accord owner's answer to the LS Vtec. no late model honda engine is that bad. i can't say the same about the ford Zetec, or Chevy's Ecotec. now that's true garbage.

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                      #11
                      The F22B1 is a solid engine. It is efficient, reliable, and well made. It is not a performance engine. VTEC works on the intake valves only, and is intended to improve breathing to provide better fuel economy over a wider powerband.

                      Compared to the F22A head, in terms of performance, the ports are very poorly designed. It is not an upgrade. To put an F22B1 head on an F22A block, you're creating a significantly inferior motor than either the F22B1 or F22A. You're creating a "frankenstein" motor, which increases the chance of failure... there goes the solid reliability of either engine.


                      The F22B1 head IS garbage to us. It's useless. There is no good reason to EVER put that motor, or even part of that motor, into a CB engine bay. The F22A isn't a performance monster either, and it takes significant work to make it so... but it IS significantly better than the F22B1... and just as efficient.









                      I may sound a bit extreme... I don't mean to say that the F22B1 is complete garbage... It's not, for it's intended purpose. For a tuner, it's worthless, though. Unless you slap a turbo on it... but the F22A is as good or better for that as well.

                      I see one of these threads a week... "I'm gonna upgrade to the VTEC head"... makes my stomach turn. VTEC is a fantastic system... however, it's not the same for every application.



                      I also despise headswaps.






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                        #12
                        Originally posted by deevergote
                        The F22B1 is a solid engine. It is efficient, reliable, and well made. It is not a performance engine. VTEC works on the intake valves only, and is intended to improve breathing to provide better fuel economy over a wider powerband.

                        Compared to the F22A head, in terms of performance, the ports are very poorly designed. It is not an upgrade. To put an F22B1 head on an F22A block, you're creating a significantly inferior motor than either the F22B1 or F22A. You're creating a "frankenstein" motor, which increases the chance of failure... there goes the solid reliability of either engine.


                        The F22B1 head IS garbage to us. It's useless. There is no good reason to EVER put that motor, or even part of that motor, into a CB engine bay. The F22A isn't a performance monster either, and it takes significant work to make it so... but it IS significantly better than the F22B1... and just as efficient.









                        I may sound a bit extreme... I don't mean to say that the F22B1 is complete garbage... It's not, for it's intended purpose. For a tuner, it's worthless, though. Unless you slap a turbo on it... but the F22A is as good or better for that as well.

                        I see one of these threads a week... "I'm gonna upgrade to the VTEC head"... makes my stomach turn. VTEC is a fantastic system... however, it's not the same for every application.



                        I also despise headswaps.

                        thanxz for the info good looks

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