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do you need to change you piping if you supercharge your cb7??

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    do you need to change you piping if you supercharge your cb7??

    just wondering cuz im looking to supercharge my cb7 but not sure yet

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    super charge? well I think youd be the 1st to SC a CB7



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      #3
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      Originally posted by Night Wolf
      super charge? well I think youd be the 1st to SC a CB7

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        #4
        No, someone has a supercharged H23 VTEC in a CB7 in Canada. He's just not on here. There's a YouTube video of it.


        There are no bolt-on supercharger kits for our cars, so you'd need to fab something up. Not impossible, but it takes some creativity. The brake master cylinder/reservoir is in the way, and needs to be relocated.

        A centrifugal supercharger would be easiest. I was going to do that to my H22 (still may someday... not sure... not cheap!)



        Anyway, what piping are you referring to? Exhaust? It'll help to run a wider exhaust, sure. If you can afford the money to supercharge your engine, you can afford to upgrade the exhaust. If you know enough to be able to supercharge your car, you'll know enough to determine what size is best.






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          #5
          Originally posted by deevergote
          No, someone has a supercharged H23 VTEC in a CB7 in Canada. He's just not on here. There's a YouTube video of it.


          There are no bolt-on supercharger kits for our cars, so you'd need to fab something up. Not impossible, but it takes some creativity. The brake master cylinder/reservoir is in the way, and needs to be relocated.

          A centrifugal supercharger would be easiest. I was going to do that to my H22 (still may someday... not sure... not cheap!)



          Anyway, what piping are you referring to? Exhaust? It'll help to run a wider exhaust, sure. If you can afford the money to supercharge your engine, you can afford to upgrade the exhaust. If you know enough to be able to supercharge your car, you'll know enough to determine what size is best.

          OOOH PLEASE DOO!!!.i was trying to raise up money to supercharge my a6 when i had it..i wanted to something different from the (somewhat) norm TC'd F22. I would love to see some pics/specs/vids on it.represent for cb7tuners nationwide
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            #6
            im thinking about doing this to my engine this winter. i was looking at using a roots blower from a mustang 3.8 5.0 cobra. and then designing a custom flange and fabbing it to fit. and then finding a place to mount the thing. but not sure if it will work quite yet....what do you guys think?

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              #7
              A centri is nice for tight compartments and top end performance. Plus it allows you to run different intercooler setups like a turbo which = piping. The Roots blower however doesnt allow that much choice. There is a heat exchanger that is usually sandwiched between the blower itself and the intake manifold and that is usually run by coolant from the engine to cool down the air charge. This setup also generates quite a bit of heat. Didnt wikked or someone fabricate an SC system using an old mercedes blower? I forgot it was a while back.

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                #8
                yeah someone used a Jackson Racing super charger for a prelude 97+.

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                  #9
                  i know the deff between a sc and a turbo.

                  but would it be better to sc or turbo?

                  knowing that sc give u low end power, and turbo more higher end power.(the turbo has to spool up. the cb7 really dosent start making power till after 3k so by that point the turbo should be spooled up so u still are makeing power when the car makes its power. just seems like the sc wouldnt be the best way to go but i could be wrong. i mean i love my turbo so i would never go sc

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by 93_f22aky
                    i know the deff between a sc and a turbo.

                    but would it be better to sc or turbo?

                    knowing that sc give u low end power, and turbo more higher end power.(the turbo has to spool up. the cb7 really dosent start making power till after 3k so by that point the turbo should be spooled up so u still are makeing power when the car makes its power. just seems like the sc wouldnt be the best way to go but i could be wrong. i mean i love my turbo so i would never go sc

                    it all depends on how you look at it. i would never have a SC for the reason that it adds weight to the crank(the SC's pulleys) and no matter how you look at it(light-weight pulleys) your still adding that to the crank. another reason why SC's tend to make less HP than turbos.

                    turbos make their power off of the exhaust gases. free power. nothing more to add. but the down side to the turbo is the turbo lag or the spool up time. with SC you have the power available all the time. either way theres tuning and dyno time that both will need in order to run right.

                    i say just spray it and be done. lol. if you dont use the gas all the time then you'll spend less on a 75hp shot kit then you would with boosting or SC your motor. plus with our cars theres the fab work you have to do.

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                      #11
                      You might want to get a larger exhaust system and go over your cooling system if you want to add a supercharger.

                      Superchargers are less effecient than most turbo systems, plus they are very expensive...but they have immediate torque

                      I would just get a h22 instead of supercharging a F22AX. IMO. It would probably cost the same, unless you are a DIY GOD and fab up everything yourself.

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                        #12
                        NO NOT THAT DEATH JUICE!!!


                        lol jk i am getting a 50 dry shot this summer after i build my block up

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                        back from basic.... off to ait.... CB still being worked on i have mad plans for it .. sorry cant tell its on the hush hush for now but all i can say in somewhere around 500 hp soon to come..

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                          #13
                          I'll be doing a 50 dry shot eventually as well. It's pretty much harmless if you don't abuse it.


                          Supercharging has its merits. Total power production is not the end-all. It's a very American, go fast in a straight line mentality. A good turbo can be nearly as responsive as a supercharger (possibly even better than a centrifugal one), but a supercharger offers power immediately off throttle. Sure, it takes power to make power... but that doesn't mean you can't push a car beyond streetable power on a supercharger!

                          Styles that are integrated into the intake manifold, like the Roots and Lysholm types, are difficult to intercool, and can cause heat issues. Centrifugal styles are as easy to intercool as turbos, but there is some lag involved.


                          A benefit to a supercharger is that you can't overboost. It can only spin as fast as the pulley will let it. With a turbo, if your wastegate fails... boom.






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                            #14
                            Originally posted by deevergote
                            A benefit to a supercharger is that you can't overboost. It can only spin as fast as the pulley will let it. With a turbo, if your wastegate fails... boom.

                            yep. boost spikes are the eternal enemy of boosted motors. lol.

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                              #15
                              Supercharged is still "boosted"






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