sway bar bushing?

[ti's 92 accord]

ok well i have a 92 accord lx 4dr, i have posted before on how my car would pull to the right. the sway bar or anti sway bar? at the front of my car. well the rubber bushing is gone.

so my questions are what is it? the anti sway bar, the stabilizer, or the sway bar? im not sure can you guys help me out?

and the other thing is...what type of bushing i need?

[ExplodingCake]

Sway bar , anti-sway bar , stabilizer bar all have the same definition.

You're good with OEM bushings.

[JohnD1079]

your car pulls becasue of alignment or you have a bent arm.

Chances are, your sway bar endlinks are shot. This can cause a sloppy steering feeling, but i dont think it would create a pull. OEM bushings will work perfectly, unless you want super duper polyurethane bushings.

[ti's 92 accord]

its not my alighnment. the sway bars right bushing is completely gone and i have looked at everything, it is definatly the missing bushing.

im personally doing my alighnment either this week or next week becase of my horrible camber.

[ExplodingCake]

Are you sure your toe is in proper spec?

Anyway , go fill in that bushing with new ones.

[JohnD1079]

its not my alighnment. the sway bars right bushing is completely gone and i have looked at everything, it is definatly the missing bushing.

im personally doing my alighnment either this week or next week becase of my horrible camber.

Didnt you just sort of contradict yourself?

Get new bushings and then get an alignment.

[ATS666]

Tires can and will cause a nasty pull!
If the car still pulls after the alingment then swap the front tires left to right. If the car pulls the oposite direction then you know its the tires.

oh ya any swaybar link kits will work just fine.

[ti's 92 accord]

its not my tires i just rotated them today.
contradict?
i kno its not my alighnment when i put my steering wheel straight it goes slowly to the left. when i let go of the steering wheel it just pulls the steering wheel to the right

[NAiL05]

Tires can and will cause a nasty pull!
If the car still pulls after the alingment then swap the front tires left to right. If the car pulls the oposite direction then you know its the tires.

oh ya any swaybar link kits will work just fine.

Yep also uneven cambers will cause a pull depending on the side. The more positive will pull it to that side as I recall.

[johnl]

its not my tires i just rotated them today.
contradict?
i kno its not my alighnment when i put my steering wheel straight it goes slowly to the left. when i let go of the steering wheel it just pulls the steering wheel to the right

What that says (assuming your description is accurate and I'm interpreting it correctly) is that your car isn't 'pulling', but that the toe is set in such a manner that the steering wheel isn't straight when travelling straight ahead.

Assuming the front toe angle is correct, then what needs to be done is shorten the right tie rod by X and lengthen the left tie rod by X. This will have no affect on the toe, but will straighten the steering wheel when traveling straight.

[johnl]

its not my alighnment. the sway bars right bushing is completely gone and i have looked at everything, it is definatly the missing bushing.

im personally doing my alighnment either this week or next week becase of my horrible camber.

Unequal camber side to side will cause a pull. Is it really pulling or not?

A pull exists when you are travelling on a completely flat road (with zero road camber) and taking your hands off the wheel causes the car to veer consistently to one side. The driver feels this as a constant (or semi constant) need to apply at least slight steering pressure away from the direction in which the car is pulling. If the car generally tracks straight when you take your hands off the wheel then it isn't pulling, even if the steering wheel isn't pointing straight ahead.

[johnl]

Chances are, your sway bar endlinks are shot. This can cause a sloppy steering feeling, but i dont think it would create a pull.

My recent experience suggests that a shot front ARB bushing can indeed cause a (slight) steering pull. I'm talking about the 'donut' style rubber bushes where there are four 'donut' bushes at each ARB link, eight in total for the whole ARB set up.

If only one 'donut' is defective or missing, then it's partner will apply a force onto the ARB causing some degree of pre-load in the ARB. Each pair of donuts at each attachment point (of which there are two pairs the ends of the ARB and one pair at each control arm) is in compression due to the link being tight.

Each donut exerts a compressive force on it's partner donut so they are both tight / compressed but the compressive force is in balance above and below the mounting point. When one fails it's partner can then push up or down on the ARB or the link with no balancing compressive force, the effect of either is the same, i.e. a pre-load in the ARB.

My car had a significant pull to the left, which disappeared when I swapped front wheels side to side. This strongly implied the pull was related to the tyres, but it was puzzling that swapping the tyres didn't then cause a pull to the right. Just recently I found a split 'donut' bush in the ARB, so replaced all the donut bushes. The car then immediately picked up a slight pull to the right (aha!).

This made more sense of the previous puzzle that swapping the front tyres side to side didn't result in the pull switching sides, just causing the left pull to disappear. What I think is (was) going on is that the car previously had two causes of left pull, i.e. tyres and the split bush.

When I swapped wheels side to side I caused a right pull that was being cancelled out by the still remaining cause of left pull (i.e. the split ARB bush). When I fixed the ARB bushes I removed this cancelling effct and now have a pull to the right being caused only by the tyres (this right pull is less than the previous left pull, which also fits the puzzle solution nicely).

[Old School]

Since your ASB bushings are "gone" I suspect the front suspension is not in top shape. But your alignment shop should have told you of any problems. It's in there interest to sell you a fix.
Anyway first thing to check is tire pressure, a small difference will cause a pull when breaking.
If pressure is OK then swapping front left and right will get you much closer to diagnosing the problem.

[ti's 92 accord]

i replaced all the swaybar bushings. car is fine now. no more pulling

[doylna]

i replaced all the swaybar bushings. car is fine now. no more pulling

That's really interesting. I've been experiencing pulling as well, and just posted about replacing my bushings as well. Time to break out the Haynes.