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200hp>160hp.
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Project Deerslayer
UPDATE: DEER - 2, CB7 - 0
'93 EX 5-speed coupe
Short ram intake
Tenrai Himoto catback
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Random bits of deer blood & hairComment
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200hp (or 190 if you're talking USDM) > 145hp... that's all those motors had. 135 if it was the F22B2.Originally posted by Camurai
The guy must think that because his tires were chirping that his motor was powerful. He's probably running some Wanli rubber bands on there...
A lightly modified F22A1 can get within a second of an H22A, but it won't be AS fast.
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True, but HondaFan81's F22A1 in his White project can pretty easily smoke an H22A!Originally posted by deevergote
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Project Deerslayer
UPDATE: DEER - 2, CB7 - 0
'93 EX 5-speed coupe
Short ram intake
Tenrai Himoto catback
Smashed front end
Random bits of deer blood & hairComment
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Yeah. Of course, put the money he's putting into those engines into an H22A and see who wins...
The money put into the Red engine would probably make 220whp or more with an H22. The White one... might stand a chance. He's looking at about 250whp. That's approaching the upper range of successful NA H22 builds. 2point6's 250whp H22 was quite streetable. Cisco's White car is not all that streetable... though I'm sure he can still drive it.
For pure performance, I've heard similar numbers coming from F22As and H22As.
F22B1/2s can suck a nut.
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Originally posted by deevergote
Tell that to a F22B1/2 owner lol. SOMEONE out there is proud of theirs. I'm sure plenty of people have said F22aX's can suck a nut, and look what some of us are doing with them!"This truck is 100% sh*ts and giggles."
"Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary... that's what gets you." Jeremy Clarkson
You're not JDM until you have a car built in ohio with tons of bolt ons from ebay.
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BUS 62 AIN'T F'ING AROUND!Comment
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If an F22b had a turbo, probably. (beat a H22 that is) I heard that the F series take turbos better that H22.
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Not the F22B1/2Originally posted by Crusty Crayonwat?Comment
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The one in the video is a stock f22b2, hes going around telling other accord owners how to drive their accords to make it faster like his, he also says he has hondata, and he adjusted his timing to make more compression
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Well, if he's running a Hondata ECU, and clearly has an exhaust... it's not exactly stock! Still... what would that make? 120whp?
Yeah, but there's a difference... the F22A has a very good port design. Very free flowing, and it responds to modification very well. The F22B1 especially has a TERRIBLE port design... It really IS a bad choice for performance! The F22B2... I don't know much about it, honestly. It may be decent.Originally posted by turbomaxx
As for turbo... the F series only takes boost "better" because of the lower compression. You can halfass your turbo setup and not blow the motor up. The H22 has higher compression, and is less forgiving when it comes to turbo. Either one in stock form is not great... the internals aren't meant for it.
The F22B1 has been used successfully with turbo... but it's not "better" than anything else. With a turbo, you can make decent power on just about anything.
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F22B2
This engine was used in the 1994-1997 Honda Accord DX, LX and SE. The F22B6 in the 1995-1997 Honda Odyssey and the F22B8 in the Honda Shuttle are substantially similar.
Specifications
* Bore × Stroke: 85.0 × 95.0 mm
* Displacement: 2156 cc
* Valve Configuration: SOHC, 16 valves
* Compression ratio: 8.8:1
* Max power: 130 hp (97 kW) @ 5300 rpm
* Max torque: 139 ft·lbf (188 N m) @ 4200 rpm
The F22B in the BA9 Prelude had a DOHC configuration
JDM engines were stamped only as F22B.
Looks just like a F22a, except that it has the 0-00-0 exhaust ports like the F22b1wat?Comment
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I have an F22B1. I can honestly say the motor is great. It gets great gas mileage. I don't look at it at a performance perspective. I know people have said it has terrible port flow design, or whatever. I really don't care, I am not into performance anymore. I just need a reliabe DD for college.
If I had a CB7 would I swap in a F22B1 in there? No. It's not worth all the hassle, BUT if you have the motor in it from the factory, then it's not bad.
I really would like to see some proof of the F22B1 having a poor port design. I am not doubting anyone, I just would like to see some proof, rather than opinions.Last edited by HondaGuy1212; 02-14-2008, 10:41 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by deevergote
Well, if he's running a Hondata ECU, and clearly has an exhaust... it's not exactly stock! Still... what would that make? 120whp?
Yeah, but there's a difference... the F22A has a very good port design. Very free flowing, and it responds to modification very well. The F22B1 especially has a TERRIBLE port design... It really IS a bad choice for performance! The F22B2... I don't know much about it, honestly. It may be decent.
As for turbo... the F series only takes boost "better" because of the lower compression. You can halfass your turbo setup and not blow the motor up. The H22 has higher compression, and is less forgiving when it comes to turbo. Either one in stock form is not great... the internals aren't meant for it.
The F22B1 has been used successfully with turbo... but it's not "better" than anything else. With a turbo, you can make decent power on just about anything.
I wouldn't say terrible, as they still have a good port design, it just isn't as good as the F22Ax's mainly due to size.Comment
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