help picking a motor for my brother

[ahdiofreak]

That's a very vague question, you need to be more clear.

What size turbo? Thats probably something I'd get stuck on for sure. Lol.

[Raf99]

You need to go research other turbo cars on this site. Find 3-5 cars you like and check out their setups. There is a turbo section you can look at.
Then start reading up on turbo setups and what is needed for the goals you want to reach. Once you determine the HP you want, then you have to research what parts and modifications you will require. Then you will know how much $ you will need. For a really well done turbo setup you are looking at $5000+. Some setups are up around the $10,000 mark.

Turbo'ing a car properly is not done cheap, quick, or easily.

[ahdiofreak]

To be honest if your going turbo save up a bit more and get a turbo car since its built for it. There are plenty of other options out srt4,turbo and supercharged as cobalt and other cars too.

They aren't even that expensive either just make sure they aren't beat and well maintained and can handle the power reliably and more effectively.

Why?.. Thats no fun. I want to learn how to build a motor, and I want to learn how to turbo it. I'm not trying to go the easy way out of this, but at least start somewhere. Because I know that I could just slap a turbo on the motor, have it tuned, and wait for the day it explodes. But thanks for the advice. I'll keep that at mind...

[ahdiofreak]

You need to go research other turbo cars on this site. Find 3-5 cars you like and check out their setups. There is a turbo section you can look at.
Then start reading up on turbo setups and what is needed for the goals you want to reach. Once you determine the HP you want, then you have to research what parts and modifications you will require. Then you will know how much $ you will need. For a really well done turbo setup you are looking at $5000+. Some setups are up around the $10,000 mark.

Turbo'ing a car properly is not done cheap, quick, or easily.

I have looked at a good amount of threads about turbo'd cars. Not a specific set-up that we want to use yet, but the general concept I guess. What all parts are needed and how to install some parts. And just what the basic turbo set-up consist of. So now I'll start looking at the differences in set-ups, and putting idea's together as far as what I want to do. Thanks for the idea

[h22sparkle]

Why?.. Thats no fun. I want to learn how to build a motor, and I want to learn how to turbo it. I'm not trying to go the easy way out of this, but at least start somewhere. Because I know that I could just slap a turbo on the motor, have it tuned, and wait for the day it explodes. But thanks for the advice. I'll keep that at mind...

It was just a thought and all. You see all of that adds up you see turbokit a quality one 1,500 to 2k plus 4k for the build plus clutch to handle power maybe 250 for tune etc that's 6k plus if you want it to last and even then things happen and run into issues that'll be more perhaps but good luck.

[ahdiofreak]

It was just a thought and all. You see all of that adds up you see turbokit a quality one 1,500 to 2k plus 4k for the build plus clutch to handle power maybe 250 for tune etc that's 6k plus if you want it to last and even then things happen and run into issues that'll be more perhaps but good luck.

No way I'll leave an Accord just to have boost. I'll post pictures of my brothers Accord to show that we've gotten too far to just get rid of it or buy another car.

[h22sparkle]

No way I'll leave an Accord just to have boost. I'll post pictures of my brothers Accord to show that we've gotten too far to just get rid of it or buy another car.

OK now

[H311RA151N]

You can have a reliable DSM setup for about $1000-$1200 if you know how to rebuild a turbo which isn't hard. I will always choose an F22A because of the DSM compatibility. Too easy and cheap not to IMO. The Big 16G will take it to over 300whp comfortably and spool nicely.

[ahdiofreak]

You can have a reliable DSM setup for about $1000-$1200 if you know how to rebuild a turbo which isn't hard. I will always choose an F22A because of the DSM compatibility. Too easy and cheap not to IMO. The Big 16G will take it to over 300whp comfortably and spool nicely.

So could I do the dsm set-up, but just use an aftermarket manifold?

[sonikaccord]

Why use an aftermarket when you could just grab the log manifold from the donor car?

[H311RA151N]

So could I do the dsm set-up, but just use an aftermarket manifold?

It can be done I'm sure but it defeats the purpose for the most part. You would have to have a custom flange made not to mention you would have to modify it to use an O2 housing. It can be done but would be more of a headache and if the manifold wasn't designed right you could have wastegate problems.

The major perk to the DSM setup is that it can be had with OEM Mitsubishi parts which is far better than anything you will find on eBay and can be had for the same price or less. I have seen 14Bs still running after 15 - 20 years of use. It's not real common but it's not that uncommon either.

You just drill out a couple holes for the studs on the F22A head and it fits like a glove. H22's are not compatible or anything else that's odd port (0-00-0). Anything even port it will fit (0-0-0-0) like H23A1's, JDM F22B DOHC non-vtec, F20A's, F22A's.

I'm not trying to persuade you into an F22A but it's just so much easier and you get the same results.

If your going with something else other than an even port then about the best bang for your buck is a kit from Treadstone. That will set you back $2000 but get you a Turbonetics turbo.

[ahdiofreak]

I think I want to try the dsm project.. My brother just got a cb7 for cheap and it has an a1 in it.. we may have to try this just to learn with and blow up. Is there a site anywhere I can find dsm kits or parts?

[h22sparkle]

I think I want to try the dsm project.. My brother just got a cb7 for cheap and it has an a1 in it.. we may have to try this just to learn with and blow up. Is there a site anywhere I can find dsm kits or parts?

Most of the time you can find parted out kits. Or scour the websites that deal with dsms preferably the first generation. But the best finds to a certain degree will be eBay.

The rest you'll have to part out things on your own from chargepipes,injectors,turbo itself you can get the 14b or go to cheap turbo.com if that site still exists.

And get a 16g from a reputable source that still fits the stock first gen manifold. Wouldn't hurt to port it a little-bit. Intercooler you want the dimensions lined up properly so the bumper fits a dump and flange to have it welded on for easy access with a flex-pipe so that it doesn't break.

With some oil-feed and oil return lines because you'll have to have that welded. There's a day on this forum if you look for it it should be there. I think the oil-lines are from stealth mode performance.

[Cheek]

Why use an aftermarket when you could just grab the log manifold from the donor car?

The log manifolds tend to crack overtime and let's face it. Most used one's are 20+ years old.

[h22sparkle]

The log manifolds tend to crack overtime and let's face it. Most used one's are 20+ years old.

Not all of them crack. It depends on the quality one that you get and the stress due to eat which determine that. Usually quality log styles are nice and thick. And I really doubt if hell be boost in high on the f