What do you guys think of these local deals?

[loud92CB7]

you really dont know what your talking about man not to be a dick but dont try to spread info that isnt anywhere close to the truth.

[J3wman]

If you're not looking for anything too aggressive then this sounds like a pretty good deal. Although you won't get as deep of bass as a 12 or 15 kicker says that their square subwoofers cover more surface area so having two 8's would be like having 2 10's so I say that this would be the best deal.

thats not entirely true. some 8" woofers can put out as much thump as other 12" woofers. its a matter or quality over anything else. when youre buying a subwoofer theres more to look at than just size, u gotta put into account quality, wattage, svc or dvc, and many other things, also think of what size space ur filling. looking at just size of the sub is like looking at a car and saying.... "350 v8!? thats big so it must be fastttt!" as you look at a 83 Cadillac SeVille

[HOACB7]

thats not entirely true. some 8" woofers can put out as much thump as other 12" woofers. its a matter or quality over anything else. when youre buying a subwoofer theres more to look at than just size, u gotta put into account quality, wattage, svc or dvc, and many other things, also think of what size space ur filling. looking at just size of the sub is like looking at a car and saying.... "350 v8!? thats big so it must be fastttt!" as you look at a 83 Cadillac SeVille

you really dont know what your talking about man not to be a dick but dont try to spread info that isnt anywhere close to the truth.

Look guys I am not trying to jack this guys thread or start any fights, but to think that I am not knowledgeable in this field is a dick move in its own. I know all about quality over quantity and what is required to build a nice quality system. All I was talking about were the decibles that each sub would produce. Both of you have to admit that there is no way that an 8 can hit as low of notes as say a 12 or a 15 and that is all I am saying. Keep in mind that when I am talking about subwoofer size I am talking about the same sub just in a different size I am not compairing low quality 12's to high quality 8's OK. Since the 8 is smaller it covers less surface area and has a faster response time to hit the next note than say a larger sub. Hence the reason they require less air space. So please don't look at my post count and consider me a noob and if you want to continue this discussion please pm me.

[loud92CB7]

All I was talking about were the decibles that each sub would produce. Both of you have to admit that there is no way that an 8 can hit as low of notes as say a 12 or a 15 and that is all I am saying. Since the 8 is smaller it covers less surface area and has a faster response time to hit the next note than say a larger sub. Hence the reason they require less air space.

just wondering how long have you been into the audio scene? not just talking on forums actually taking product and goin through builds? maybe even doing a show or 2?

reason why is being if u play with enclosures everything will play evenly. the 8's i ran were commonly mixed up with 12's and 15's with atleast double the power.

this isnt thread jacking its called sorting out info. you made a comment that really needed to be corrected.

[J3wman]

Look guys I am not trying to jack this guys thread or start any fights, but to think that I am not knowledgeable in this field is a dick move in its own. I know all about quality over quantity and what is required to build a nice quality system. All I was talking about were the decibles that each sub would produce. Both of you have to admit that there is no way that an 8 can hit as low of notes as say a 12 or a 15 and that is all I am saying. Keep in mind that when I am talking about subwoofer size I am talking about the same sub just in a different size I am not compairing low quality 12's to high quality 8's OK. Since the 8 is smaller it covers less surface area and has a faster response time to hit the next note than say a larger sub. Hence the reason they require less air space. So please don't look at my post count and consider me a noob and if you want to continue this discussion please pm me.

i wasnt trying to say u arent knowledgeable i was just using ur quote as a conversation piece for the n00bs out there. and yes if you have 2 subs of equal quality (lets say Alpine Type-Rs) the 15" will make lower decibels than the 8"

[HOACB7]

i wasnt trying to say u arent knowledgeable i was just using ur quote as a conversation piece for the n00bs out there. and yes if you have 2 subs of equal quality (lets say Alpine Type-Rs) the 15" will make lower decibels than the 8"

Ok thanks for the clarification and I was also not trying to come across as an a-hole. Sorry for the misinterpretation.

[J3wman]

Ok thanks for the clarification and I was also not trying to come across as an a-hole. Sorry for the misinterpretation.

no problem im usually easy going about assholes unless someone blatantly says i suck or insults me i give them the benefit of the doubt

[sonikaccord]

Look guys I am not trying to jack this guys thread or start any fights, but to think that I am not knowledgeable in this field is a dick move in its own. I know all about quality over quantity and what is required to build a nice quality system. All I was talking about were the decibles that each sub would produce. Both of you have to admit that there is no way that an 8 can hit as low of notes as say a 12 or a 15 and that is all I am saying. Keep in mind that when I am talking about subwoofer size I am talking about the same sub just in a different size I am not compairing low quality 12's to high quality 8's OK. Since the 8 is smaller it covers less surface area and has a faster response time to hit the next note than say a larger sub. Hence the reason they require less air space. So please don't look at my post count and consider me a noob and if you want to continue this discussion please pm me.

The size of the sub doesn't determine transient response.

The surface area of a sub has little to do with the box size it needs.

An 8 can play as low as any 12 or 15, but the output will be less considering all else remains optimal.

[HOACB7]

The size of the sub doesn't determine transient response.

The surface area of a sub has little to do with the box size it needs.

An 8 can play as low as any 12 or 15, but the output will be less considering all else remains optimal.

I realize that I should have been more descripitive in my last previous posts. I wasn't trying to say that an 8" sub is inferior to a larger sub, especially if someone was trying to compare a high quality 8 to a significantly lower quality 15. There are a lot of different factors to consider when you are wanting to put a quality system into your ride, and I understand this. I also wasn't trying to say that the surface area of the sub determines what size of a box it needs. That all depends on the demands of the Subwoofer itself. I would also like to say that Audio companies make different size subs for a reason, because they produces different sounds. Otherwise Why would someone go out and spend the extra money on say a 15" Kicker Solo Baric which requires a larger box and a larger amp to power the subwoofer, when they could just save money and buy the same 8" subwoofer (which requires less cubic ft of airspace) and a smaller amp if they sounded exactly the same?

[sonikaccord]

I would also like to say that Audio companies make different size subs for a reason, because they produces different sounds. Otherwise Why would someone go out and spend the extra money on say a 15" Kicker Solo Baric which requires a larger box and a larger amp to power the subwoofer, when they could just save money and buy the same 8" subwoofer (which requires less cubic ft of airspace) and a smaller amp if they sounded exactly the same?

It's a couple of reasons why manufacturers make different sized subs.

Marketing? Your "average" person is going to think a bigger sub with more power handling equals louder and it does to a certain extent, but they don't know what is involved in extracting all of that.

SPL...more displacement with less subs?

[JaberCB7]

i think theyre all overpriced im my opinion, maybe its cus i know alot of people. Do you have any local fleet market that sells audio systems? either that or walmart sometimes have a sweet package deal, deal includes sony head unit (ipod ready,aux) with 3 1/2" door speakers (x2) and 6x9 (x2) for $99. Also sony xplod 12" sub for $65 each, 600 watt sony xplod amp(voice) for i belive it was $80 and a 1000 watt amp (base) for $125....i had traded my alpine type R 12" subs and box for the sony system and let me tell you that combo works great i had it in my last car and it was loud of course i had 5 6x9 so thats mainly why. hope it sheds some light on your decision