Help Request for Installing 92-93 Center Console Armrest

[P5ylance]

Hi everyone, I have a 92 EX accord coupe, and I recently got a hold of a center console armrest (Also known as the "tall boy" armrest). I understand that my e-brake will have to be relocated to the middle position. Just a while ago I went to go and check out the situation, and to see if my car was one of the lucky few with the middle position holes pre-threaded. unfortunately, it is not, and so here is my help request.

For anyone who has:

1) the 92-93 center console armrest

*NOTE: image is not mine, pulled from Joshy's thread, http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...onsole+armrest *

2) an accord that did NOT have the holes pre-threaded for positioning the e-brake in the middle
3) installed the armrest in their car

my question is:

How do I secure my e-brake handle down in the middle position? The current holes i have are slightly larger than the OEM bolts that were used to hold the e-brake down in the first place, so those bolts have become all but useless to me. What were your methods in installing the center console armrest? Please explain as clear as possible, and explain how you used each particular item in your installation (drummersteve used "washers"... but he never explained to me what and how they were used, and i'm confused as to how washers could help hold the bolt in).

Pictures of anything regarding the installation will be greatly appreciated, as I've already prepped it black and dyed the armrest black and I really want to get this thing installed ASAP.

If you are confused about any part of my question, please feel free to ask me what i mean, and I will try my best to explain what i'm trying to get at.

Thank you in advance, and I hope to hear from any member who has done this install and has any valuable information that can be of use to me right now.

-P5ylance

[P5ylance]

BUMP, if anyone who's gone through this situation knows what to do.

[JoshM]

PM greencb7inkc. He had the same situation as you, and he's done plenty of researching. I'm not sure if he's found a perfect solution, but he may have some leads for you.

[Accrdwgnguy]

Tap the holes for a larger bolt?

[drummersteve7]

well I was lucky and my holes were there in the middle.

All I had to do was enlarge the holes actually on the ebrake. then throw a washer as to let the bolt tighten down on the ebrake. Common knowledge.

Nothing to specific, I did not have to drill and tap or anything like that.
Was a straight forward swap, so my method apparently will not help you!

[ap716]

go to home depot or lowes and get a bolt that fits, thats what i did....

[MikeW]

People just dont get it!

The holes are there but THEY ARE NOT THREAED.

Mine has the holes, but they are NOT threaded either.

Tapping the holes for a larger bolt is the only thing i can come up with. Either use a tap or just get a good dril/wrench and use a bigger bolt and hand thread that bitch. Only thing is, you'd have to get someone to hold the ebrake in place when you tapped the hole because the bracket for the ebrake would need to have larger holes as well.

I dont know what hole taps run, and i can probably come across one, here, at work, so im fortunate enough there. I just havent had the time to spend a few hours fucking with it, lol.

Good luck though. Maybe one of these days i'll get out there and see what i can do. Ill be sure to post pics.

[drummersteve7]

interesting. my holes were there and tapped.

[P5ylance]

haha yeah, drummer you got one of the lucky accords lol

hmm, yah, but the thing is, theres like not much metal to thread/tap it's weird... like where the e-brake originally threads, the metal goes a good 1cm down, threaded

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but on those center holes, it's just a sheet of metal

( -- -- ) and theres not much to thread.

so i'd have to somehow fill it with something... JB weld perhaps? sounds kinda sketchy, but i figure if someone is willing to fill their IAB plate with that stuff and use it as a spacer, it should hold quite well and i'll be able to thread it after it's all cured. or is that sliver of metal enough to hold if i thread it?

either way, sounds like the method is to enlarge the e-brake assembly's holes to allow for a larger bolt, and to thread that center hole to fit that larger bolt... bleh. thought this was gonna be a one day job lol

i'll work on it when i have some free time, and take pictures too. i bought myself a metric tap set from the auto store so i should be good. just gotta bring a drill in my car >_<' see what you can come up with too, green team teamwork!

[MikeW]

I got fed up with it because there are numerous people who have done it and, strangely, no one seems to have any answers. I just find it strange that the people who have done it must've been lucky enough to have gotten an accord with pre-tapped holes.

I think not.

There's an answer. I just dont know what it is at this moment. Dont use JB weld. That stuff's just....ugh. Dont use it, lol.

And ill dig up the couple of threads/posts i have on this subject, but ive said it numerous times and no one gets it. The ebrake is essentially bolted to the top of the "tunnel". For some strange and unusual reason, Honda made the part of the tunnel where the side-mounted ebrake mounts, thicker than where you'd have a center-mounted ebrake.

Just like you showed. The side is thick, like this.... || ||
Where as the center is thin metal, like this... --- ---

I dont know how to else to explain it other than, the metal is thinner. Tapping it COULD be done, but it wouldnt have alot of threads.

Just short of welding it in place...i dont know what else to do.

[MikeW]

Here's my thread.....http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...st#post2408572

Here is, probably, the most useful post in it...

My car is a 92, and it fit straight up...but its a DX, so its an oddball. Otherwise, the 9293 LX and EX all have the offset e-brake right? All 9091's have the central ebrake? You could drill and tap some aluminum inserts and press-fit them in if the holes are in the right spot at least.

Thats what i may end up doing.

[drummersteve7]

inserts seem the best way. def use an insert and jbweld or weld it.
this is basically like already having the tapped holes.

yah it is a lil more complicated. but will work.
a lil JB weld on the bottom and some on the top, sand it down to be flushed.

voila, new hole for your bolt!

[P5ylance]

hmm... time to go to home depot and see what metal rod i can get to fit in there to make an insert!

what i do know is that the hole is slightly larger in diameter than the bolt, so to be able to reuse the OEM bolt we could probably find some small metal rod, drill (perfectly) down the center, then thread it. then as drummer states, JB weld/weld/some-other-affixing-method it to the tunnel.

gah, damn you center console armrest for being so cool yet so awkward :\

tapping that sheet of metal, lol you'd probably come out of it with half a thread. bleh.

oh well, our armrests will be much more custom and rewarding when we get it in lol

[P5ylance]

ANSWERRRR!!!

http://www.boltdepot.com/anchoring-products.aspx

threaded anchors. try these out.

drop it in the hole, it expands and will lock itself, then you drop the e-brake assembly on it and screw on the nut.

^i think. gotta see it to believe it, but it's definitely worth a try.