90-91 jdm fogs w/h.i.d v.s aftermarket

[benjerman112]

dude, people who have 8000k hid fogs piss me off because i can't see! maybe get 5000k and it wouldnt blind anyone AS much.

Really cause their aimed at the ground.

thanks benjerman112 that's very helpful. Im leaning towards o/e fogs now.

JDM or USDM there are both sweet.

[H22Artman]

What? They blind? Would color make a diff?

now you see the reason for my argument.
different temps produce different colors.

google image "hid color".
youll find all sorts of charts that show the differences.

[904dr]

color temp not a concern. People in az roll around with some of the stupidest color temps. Even on trucks.

[904dr]

I know there's alot of people on here running either jdm fogs or after market. Wish they would throw their two cent's in!!!!!!!!!! All I want to know is which would be worth the money. Just saying foglights are foglights is not constructive.

[H22Artman]

color temp not a concern. People in az roll around with some of the stupidest color temps. Even on trucks.

if youre worried about annoying other drivers then it is a concern.

like previously posted, 5000k would be a good choice.
if it were me i would probably go even lower, but thats just personal preference.

and what does HIDs on trucks have to do with anything???

[av6g6]

Many people are misinformed about color temps and brightness. 4300k is about the brightes hid color and is usually what oem uses, so 5000k is still one of the brightest, The higher you go on the kelvin scale say to 15,000k the dimmer the bulbs get. Anything over 6000k in my opinion is uselsess because not only is it dimmer, the bluer the light gets the more strain there is on your eyes to see. Blue lights are just harder to see with. That's also why it doesn't really bother me when people run hid kits in stock headlights b/c most people get the cool blue lights which are not bright and don't glare.

Now back on topic to the OP, pretty much any fog light you get that is of quality will function like designed as long as they are aimed properly. Just know that if you put an HID kit in it the beam pattern will change since the bulbs filament will be changed thus changing the behavior of the beam.

[H22Artman]

Many people are misinformed about color temps and brightness. 4300k is about the brightes hid color and is usually what oem uses, so 5000k is still one of the brightest, The higher you go on the kelvin scale say to 15,000k the dimmer the bulbs get. Anything over 6000k in my opinion is uselsess because not only is it dimmer, the bluer the light gets the more strain there is on your eyes to see. Blue lights are just harder to see with. That's also why it doesn't really bother me when people run hid kits in stock headlights b/c most people get the cool blue lights which are not bright and don't glare.

Now back on topic to the OP, pretty much any fog light you get that is of quality will function like designed as long as they are aimed properly. Just know that if you put an HID kit in it the beam pattern will change since the bulbs filament will be changed thus changing the behavior of the beam.

4300k isnt necessarily the brightest, but it is the closest to daylight which is why its the popular choice for OE apps.

3000k for example gives off a yellow hue but its not brighter than a 4300k.

[AccordWarrior]

I think people are confusing lumen output with the appearance of color.

I'm currently finding it impossible locate a chart referencing lumen output to Kelvin.

EDIT: Here we go http://www.mobilehid.com/6000k.htm

Notice the dropoff after 4300k in Lumen output.

However, it should be noted that the type of bulb will dictate lumen output.

I don't think there's any reason to put HID into OEM fogs. They're just going to create more glare.

The optics on the OEM fogs suck. I still say they're just for looks. My $20 Auto Zone fogs far exceeded that of the OEM fog as far as output is concerned. I had very nice Hella Yellowstar bulb setup on the OEM fog, and whatever the stock bulb was on the Auto Zone piece.

If you want to create a nice fog setup, figure out a way to retrofit an H3 projector fog into the OEM housings. If I was pressed to put HID into the OEM fog, I would run a 3000k setup and do whatever was necessary to aim them down, because if not they're going to bother everyone and anyone on the road.

[904dr]

if youre worried about annoying other drivers then it is a concern.

like previously posted, 5000k would be a good choice.
if it were me i would probably go even lower, but thats just personal preference.

and what does HIDs on trucks have to do with anything???

I mentioned trucks because with h.i.d kit's theyre most noticable (imo), if they don't care why should I? Thanks AccordWarrior that helps.

[av6g6]

Well, technically the 4800k D4s/r bulb is the brightest on the market at around 3800 lumens at 35 watts, but the difference in lumens of 4300k and 7000k drops by about half at 7000k. All in all though anything under 6000k is basically as bad or worse than halogens, not only because of lumens, but because the light is a bluer hue.

[H22Artman]

I mentioned trucks because with h.i.d kit's theyre most noticable (imo), if they don't care why should I? Also I should have mentioned that if I was to use jdm foglights I was going with a 3k h.i.d kit. Good choice?

proabaly just cause theyre higher off the ground and their lights hit you right in the face.

3-3500k. very good choice. thats what i plan to use once i get a set of fogs.

[av6g6]

I mentioned trucks because with h.i.d kit's theyre most noticable (imo), if they don't care why should I? Also I should have mentioned that if I was to use jdm foglights I was going with a 3k h.i.d kit. Good choice?

Well, just because the d-bags in the trucks don't care doesn't mean you should because the d-bags in the trucks aren't the only one's on the road. There's also us which are on average lowered and lower than most factory cars, so the glare is going to be even worse in our eyes. dont' be a d-bag because a select few are.
Once again for a nice fog light like mentioned above and like my links on the first page, you can't beat a projector fog light. It limits glare which actually does help in foggy rainy weather, and it has a wider beam. And lastly if you do end up putting an HID kit in it, it won't glare since it has a cutoff inside of it.

[Warudakumi]

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The optics on the OEM fogs suck. I still say they're just for looks.

If you want to create a nice fog setup, figure out a way to retrofit an H3 projector fog into the OEM housings. If I was pressed to put HID into the OEM fog, I would run a 3000k setup and do whatever was necessary to aim them down, because if not they're going to bother everyone and anyone on the road.

Highly agreed. This is exactly what the EDM 90-91 fogs are. Basically OEM housings with a projector behind clear glass..... Hmm sounds like a new project.

[904dr]

Are the jdm 90-91 fogs made out of glass?

[904dr]

I just found these anybody have an opinion about them? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33709