is it absolutly nessacary to have a relay on hid conversion kit

[deevergote]

Running without a proper harness can fry your electrical system. I paid $45 for my CB7's harness, and $15 for my GTP's harness. The cheap one was every bit as good. I'll find the link and post it up... icedplaya123 told me about it.

[lo_dit]

to be on the safe side just get one, they arent that expensive.

[KRIS05VVTi]

i hate relays but for that kit to last.....get one!

[C91BLX7]

Your car already has a relay.

[LowNknoxville]

Your car already has a relay.

I mean thats what im thinkin! in the stock harness and switch right?
Also dont the HID actually pull less power to work?
the ballast is what converts the power and makes more right? maybe not!
They seem to be working just fine as for now! PEACE

[keycb7]

true your headlights already have relays, so no you dont need one, but if you were adding more light that would draw more power from heads like foglight then you would need to use another relay. ballast draw lots of power on start up but after that not much more as stock halogens bulbs.

[deevergote]

Why is everyone here that is GIVING advice so ignorant on the subject? keycb7 has it closer than anyone else.


HIDs draw up to TWICE the power of stock halogens when warming up. Once they're warmed up, they draw considerably less power. It's this warm up period that will fry your stock wiring.

You need a harness so the HIDs can draw power directly from the battery during this time, without doing so through your stock wiring. The stock wiring is NOT made to handle this much power, and can get fried. Believe me, HIDs are not cool enough to justify replacing your entire wire harness. If you're too cheap/lazy to install an auxiliary harness to protect the stock wiring, then you shouldn't own HIDs in the first place.


The harness is not to protect the HID kit. If that was it, then I'd say whatever... $100 for another kit... lesson learned. It is, however, intended to protect the CAR. If you burn out your main harness, how many of you are going to feel like replacing it?



If you don't know what you're saying, ESPECIALLY in the Beginner Forums, please don't even try. These forums are designed for people that have no idea what they're doing, and giving them bad advice will only make things worse.









Here. Get this. $15, and it's very well made. This is the one I have in my GTP, and it's every bit as good as the one I paid 3x as much for in the CB7.
http://shop.3bspecialties.com/produc...0&productId=22

[LowNknoxville]

thanks alot deeve. Now is that just for one headlight or for both? Is it bulb specific? 9006??? or universal? i know your not the seller but you bought these so im taking your expert advise! PEACE

[C91BLX7]

HIDs draw up to TWICE the power of stock halogens when warming up. Once they're warmed up, they draw considerably less power. It's this warm up period that will fry your stock wiring.

You need a harness so the HIDs can draw power directly from the battery during this time, without doing so through your stock wiring. The stock wiring is NOT made to handle this much power, and can get fried. Believe me, HIDs are not cool enough to justify replacing your entire wire harness. If you're too cheap/lazy to install an auxiliary harness to protect the stock wiring, then you shouldn't own HIDs in the first place.

If you have the correct fuses in, the fuse will blow way before the wire does.

How long is the warm up period? Less than a minute? I think it would be fine.

[deevergote]

thanks alot deeve. Now is that just for one headlight or for both? Is it bulb specific? 9006??? or universal? i know your not the seller but you bought these so im taking your expert advise! PEACE

It's for both headlights, and you have to specify which kit you want (the dropdown box there has all the selections. 9006 is one of them)

It's simple to install.

[deevergote]

If you have the correct fuses in, the fuse will blow way before the wire does.

How long is the warm up period? Less than a minute? I think it would be fine.

So if I ran more current than your body could handle through you for less than a minute, you'd be fine, right?

It doesn't take much to damage wiring. Fuses are a safeguard, but they aren't foolproof.

If you think it would be fine, try it. Try it and see. If you don't blow your wiring, ever, then I'll admit that you were right, and it MIGHT be safe to run without an additional harness. If you DO blow your wiring, replace it... I will personally buy you a harness so you don't do it again.

[ChIoVnIdCa]

Not needed but recommended. . . I have had the external relay on kit on all mine. My current set wouldnt even turn on without it.

[deevergote]

Most kits will WORK without them, sure... but they may do damage. Especially to 18 year old wiring.

I ran my 6 year old GTP without a harness for 1 month... like a dumbass. It developed some electrical issues. MANY of the guys on clubgp that I spoke to have had issues from doing the same thing as well.

[C91BLX7]

So if I ran more current than your body could handle through you for less than a minute, you'd be fine, right?

It doesn't take much to damage wiring. Fuses are a safeguard, but they aren't foolproof.

If you think it would be fine, try it. Try it and see. If you don't blow your wiring, ever, then I'll admit that you were right, and it MIGHT be safe to run without an additional harness. If you DO blow your wiring, replace it... I will personally buy you a harness so you don't do it again.

Well where is the proof that it will happen?

[deevergote]

Well where is the proof that it will happen?

That's what happens when you run too much power through a harness that isn't designed for it.