Hillary's plan to pull out of Iraq

[foamypirate]

From http://hillaryclinton.com/issues/iraq/.

"If President Bush does not end the war, when Hillary Clinton is president, she will. Her three-step plan would bring our troops home, work to bring stability to the region, and replace military force with a new diplomatic initiative to engage countries around the world in securing Iraq's future."

I for one, would like to know how she plans on "bringing stability to the region" without a military presence?

This is something akin to WWI, where we left Germany without a real "government." Look what happened there? At least we FINISHED the war.

I personally think that her own plan makes her plan, well...impossible.

[Djmoua]

i dont think it'll work...she'll probably be forced to send them back or probably can't take em back at all...idk..imo...she' aint gonna get that to work.

[deevergote]

It'll be difficult to pull out of Iraq at this time. It's a shame, but it's the hole we dug ourselves (and them) into. I want the war to end. I want our troops to come home... but I don't want to see an entire nation left open to be taken over by someone that might be our enemies. Regardless, nothing is going to be done all that quickly, no matter WHO takes over.

[foamypirate]

Yeah, she proposes that she would start bringing them home within 60 days of taking office. Right.

It's ok though, she's going to lose anyway.

From http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...714840,00.html:

The Clinton spin machine has been consistent about this. Nebraska, Idaho and Utah didn't matter because they were deep-red states. South Carolina, Louisiana and Georgia didn't matter because they had large percentages of black voters. Maine and Washington didn't matter because caucuses aren't truly representative. Maryland and Virginia didn't matter because Obama was expected to win there. For a moment, it looked like Missouri might matter when the networks called it for Hillary — her campaign quickly bragged about winning a "closely contested toss-up state" — but the networks were wrong. On the other hand, it looked like Nevada wasn't going to matter at all because there were polling stations in casinos, but it ended up huge because Hillary won.

[SteveB]

It's ok though, she's going to lose anyway.

It's ok?
How is her plan worse than the one of the winners?

[foamypirate]

It's ok?
How is her plan worse than the one of the winners?

It was just a general statement about Hillary's campaign. I'm not saying that America is going to be A-OK with anyone but Hillary.

I just happen to have a personal dislike for her.

[SteveB]

I just happen to have a personal dislike for her.

Unfortunately, you don't get to vote against someone, you have to vote FOR someone.

Whose Iraq invasion policies do you *like*, then?

[Ralphie]

Its funny when people bitch about pulling out of Iraq.

No matter who is elected and what their plan is, we have so much equipment over theyre that it would stretch(if put in single file) around the globe once.

Just from a logistical standpoint, itll be years before we are removed from Iraq.

And its mostly Iraq's fault that they are doing so poorly although we shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Whatever your cause, im glad to have Bush out.

[chessboxer]

Im a big supporter of Obama and in increased pressure on the Iraqi government to get off of its ass and do something.
Flame me for supporting Obama, but I have a lot of faith in the guy.
It is a mess there now, but at some point they have to step up and do something, and what they are doing right now is not enough.
As soon as the first BDE is pulled, it should light a fire under their ass and get them to start moving forward, at least, I most certainly hope so.

[DA92CB7]

obama is the "most" qualified and seems more "bipartisand" than the rest if he wins the democratic inaguration I will be voting democrat because John Mccain is too old LOL, but hillary is a dried up hag who talks big and has nothing to show for it Obama is more moderate for my tastes so yeah. As for Iraq its been just one big debauckle after another the wrong people were put in charge and put there for the wrong reasons it is something that will take more than a year to get "US" out of it.

[verothacamaro]

From http://hillaryclinton.com/issues/iraq/.


"If President Bush does not end the war, when Hillary Clinton is president, she will. Her three-step plan would bring our troops home, work to bring stability to the region, and replace military force with a new diplomatic initiative to engage countries around the world in securing Iraq's future."

I for one, would like to know how she plans on "bringing stability to the region" without a military presence?

This is something akin to WWI, where we left Germany without a real "government." Look what happened there? At least we FINISHED the war.

I personally think that her own plan makes her plan, well...impossible.

It's not impossible, but definitely improbable.

She wont end the war. No one can.....and there will NEVER be a real stability in the region.

We've already poured $1.3 trillion into the war, with no results. I don't blame the administration so much as I blame the society our country has invaded.

They've never known 'freedoms' that we know today, and more than likely will never know.

[chessboxer]

It's not impossible, but definitely improbable.

She wont end the war. No one can.....and there will NEVER be a real stability in the region.

We've already poured $1.3 trillion into the war, with no results. I don't blame the administration so much as I blame the society our country has invaded.

They've never known 'freedoms' that we know today, and more than likely will never know.

Very, very well put.

[NAiL05]

I say leave the people there. The troops are doing there best. lol at the withdrawal and political stability. At this point if we pull out probably the terrorist institutions would take over right away. Good stuff isnt it. As mentioned common sense dictates that pulling out would be a fatal error and probably cause more death among others. Honestly not a fan of hillary either. I would go for Edwards, Huckabee, or Obama if all else fails. HUckabee just scares me with his deep contact with religion. Anyway I agree with gettin the iraqi govt to do something about it but they are scared. I can understand why. You want to take over you risk getting your family completely killed. That would be a good reason why there isnt much leadership and they are relying on the US. But still I am pretty sure we can work something out. Yes we have lost people there but this is war. Not everyone is gonna live. Harsh but its true. Personally I dont like people saying pull out now for there campaign. Thats WHAT people want to hear BUT do people think about the consequences if we do do that? Thats another thing society fails at. Thinking ahead. Just ranting but yea.

[lokuputha]

This is something akin to WWI, where we left Germany without a real "government." Look what happened there? At least we FINISHED the war.

It would be akin to leaving Vietnam. IMO.

[foamypirate]

Let's see...

Vietnam War casualties (US): 58,209

War in Iraq casualties (US): 3,970


That is all.