Freaking Dumb Police!!

[Rusty]

Nice post Madspleen, but keep in mind different Jurisdictions have different definitions of probably cause.


I would love to see statistics for any of the facts you guys are throwing out there.
Head4life I would love to see where you get your "no one has ever died from weed" facts.

[Turbo Dave]

madspleen, please do not try to explain laws to me, thats a definition from a website NOT a statute, a guilty look has nothing to do with probable cause.

statutes go by state and even city. Statutes are the ONLY thing that matters

nothing to hide?

You don't get it do you. I have nothing to hide, but i have to hide it because the law says its bad.

i smoke marijuana on a regular basis, drink on the weekends, take acid when i feel like, and snort painkillers when I eat shit skateboarding, i never drive drunk, and i don't fall victim to addiction.

i dont care to hide it because im not hurting anyone, nor my physical or mental self.

Madspleen why are drugs bad? i would like you to explain to me. what gives them the characteristics of being bad.

bad 1 (bd)
adj. worse (wûrs), worst (wûrst)
1. Not achieving an adequate standard; poor: a bad concert.
2. Evil; sinful.
3. Vulgar or obscene: bad language.
4. Informal Disobedient or naughty: bad children.
5. Disagreeable, unpleasant, or disturbing: a bad piece of news.
6. Unfavorable: bad reviews for the play.
7. Not fresh; rotten or spoiled: bad meat.
8. Injurious in effect; detrimental: bad habits.
9. Not working properly; defective: a bad telephone connection.
10. Full of or exhibiting faults or errors: bad grammar.
11. Having no validity; void: passed bad checks.
12. Being so far behind in repayment as to be considered a loss: bad loans.
13. Severe; intense: a bad cold.
14.
a. Being in poor health or in pain: I feel bad today.
b. Being in poor condition; diseased: bad lungs.
15. Sorry; regretful: She feels bad about how she treated you.


2 of those described how drugs are bad, unfavorable - but you dont base things on wether someone likes it or not, because having orange and green hair would be illegal.

And Evil or sinful - following the bible (as sinful isn't found in a statute and the USA is based off the existence of an entity), there are no direct quotes against drugs, only "the body is a temple, and you shall take care of it.."

christians use this as an example of why you shouldn't use drugs, beacause they are bad for you. however, science shows different, plus alchohol is much worse than marijuana or acid.

only reason alchohol got reinacted is because it is the drug that gets you laid, and taking that away would ruin a mans chances of getting a pretty female (so it was instinctual based)

everything you know you have been told, and never tried to discover out for yourself, and that is the only way to be 100% confident

You see things in a very closed manner. its kind of silly, really, take some psychology classes, learn about things,

and realize the medicine you take for ADD, is either methylphenidate, or amphetamine salt. just a drug that can be found on the streets in a nice pill form with an orange bottle an 8 am dosing time, a doctors word doesnt make it healthier for you.

so if i took (not abused) amphetamine salt, and i wasn't prescribed, would it be BAD? the body is a temple, if a doctor prescribed it for you, and i took it, a doctors word did not suddenly make it healthy? yes no?

there is no difference. but i will still get arrested for it, because i don't have a script, but yet i use it for school to get better grades, and i can be taken to the same place that people go for murdering another human. (prison)

im tired of typing, i hope you understand my beliefs are completely opposite of the government, and if everyone didn't steal, let addiction take them over, only fought in self defense, and not have there heads stuck so far up there asses that they believe everyone who doesnt believe there religion should die. the entire world would not need a government, like the ancient mayans.

its the people who are bad, not the objects, we outlaw objects because we are scared of what they can do to us, and instead of fixing the people, we try to quarantine the object, but it always gets out.

if you want to know my beliefs, listen to the song Imagine by John Lennon

I guess you can call this MY religion, and so if i have to go to jail for MY religion, then I will do it.

but this is why i fight everything, because Im following what i believe is the answer to life.

thats the best i can explain it to ya

Saturday night racing is MY sunday church, drugs are medicine for my soul, because i feel that without lsd, i would be attending a trade school at the moment, and not in college getting at least a masters, if not a PsyD.

[m-tec93accord]

that is awesome(peter voice)

[texasvtak]

plus alchohol is much worse than ... acid.

Care to run that by me again?

[m-tec93accord]

Care to run that by me again?

cant believe i missed that one........

i should be dead by now.....

[MadSpleen85]

Nice post Madspleen, but keep in mind different Jurisdictions have different definitions of probably cause.

Thanks Rusty. I am aware of the different definitions from one jurisdiction to another, I was just trying to throw something general out there for anyone that was confused as to what probable cause could be.

madspleen, please do not try to explain laws to me, thats a definition from a website NOT a statute, a guilty look has nothing to do with probable cause.

statutes go by state and even city. Statutes are the ONLY thing that matters

nothing to hide?

Just like I said earlier in this post, "I am aware of the different definitions from one jurisdiction to another, I was just trying to throw something general out there for anyone that was confused as to what probable cause could be."

You don't get it do you. I have nothing to hide, but i have to hide it because the law says its bad.

If my memory serves me correctly I recall saying the following; "Seriously, what is the big deal with giving consent to search if you have nothing to hide?" Do you think this country and most others have laws just to be broken and be worth less then the paper they are written on?

i dont care to hide it because im not hurting anyone, nor my physical or mental self.

That is an opinion that many people share and what is great about this country is you have the ability to say how you feel. Good for you you have expressed your opinion, until that becomes a MUCH more common view on lifestyles like yours, you will be forced to deal with Law Enforcement and the Governement since what they do for a living is deal with people that break the laws.

Madspleen why are drugs bad? i would like you to explain to me. what gives them the characteristics of being bad.

I do not recall saying that drugs are bad... Some drugs, when used properly are extremely beneficial to the person that they are perscribed to. While at the same time, those same drugs when used incorrectly can be fatal.

only reason alchohol got reinacted is because it is the drug that gets you laid, and taking that away would ruin a mans chances of getting a pretty female (so it was instinctual based)

I don't know about you, but I can honestly say that I have NEVER had to rely on alcohol to "get laid." Maybe you need to reconsider the way you are living your life if you are not able to attract a sober female.

everything you know you have been told, and never tried to discover out for yourself, and that is the only way to be 100% confident

Are you sure? I was told not to speed when I went through the drivers ed program.. Did that stop me? NO and I got a ticket that I deserved for it. I grew up being told that smoking was bad. Did that stop me? NO I smoked nearly a pack of cigarettes a day from the time I started High School through around 17 when I realized that I could no longer run up a flight of stairs without being out of breath for 10 minutes after the fact.

im tired of typing, i hope you understand my beliefs are completely opposite of the government...

Nope still don't understand your beliefs, and again that is what makes this country great, you can give your opinion.

its the people who are bad, not the objects, we outlaw objects because we are scared of what they can do to us, and instead of fixing the people, we try to quarantine the object, but it always gets out.

It is the people that make the objects bad. The governement can only attempt to control so much, objects are easier to control then the actions of people. If people would have NEVER abused alcohol it would have never been made illegal for a time in our countries past. If people didn't abuse Marijuana, it would not be illegal. If people didn't use the medicines that use to get over a cold for cooking meth, then I could get over a cold without having to talk to a Pharmicist.

Not trying to be clever or anyting like that but this quote has been said before on this board and everywhere else but it will always ring true.

"Opinions are like assholes, everyone has their own."






EDIT: BTW, RoCknRicEr037, Max sig size is 500 x 300. Your's seems to be 841 x 192.

[King James]

only reason alchohol got reinacted is because it is the drug that gets you laid, and taking that away would ruin a mans chances of getting a pretty female (so it was instinctual based)

The only reason alcohol isnt illegal now is cuz when they tried to make it illegal it was too common to continue to outlaw it.

[Turbo Dave]

Nope still don't understand your beliefs, and again that is what makes this country great, you can give your opinion.


It is the people that make the objects bad. The governement can only attempt to control so much, objects are easier to control then the actions of people. If people would have NEVER abused alcohol it would have never been made illegal for a time in our countries past. If people didn't abuse Marijuana, it would not be illegal. If people didn't use the medicines that use to get over a cold for cooking meth, then I could get over a cold without having to talk to a Pharmicist.

So why should i be punished because someone else fucked up?

if people never abused it in the first place, well im not them, so why should i go to jail for someone elses mistakes?

if you become a cop, your going to arrest someone for doing something that is illegal but it is only illegal because someone else fucked up and made it illegal, and your arresting that person based on someone else's actions.

And I find doing that to be committing a sin, punishing someone who hasn't committed the true crime.



The governement can only attempt to control so much, objects are easier to control then the actions of people.

that still doesn't make it morally right, controlling an object because people are the problem, its the "easiest" way, yeah, but its not morally right.

punishing everyone because of someone isn't right.


theres a difference in right and wrong, and the government does not know it.

[Turbo Dave]

The only reason alcohol isnt illegal now is cuz when they tried to make it illegal it was too common to continue to outlaw it.

ahh that is the reason to the naked eye, but it is rooted deeper than that. So many men broke the law, because it is instinctual, the drug of the world, dates back to the bible.

[Turbo Dave]

EDIT: BTW, RoCknRicEr037, Max sig size is 500 x 300. Your's seems to be 841 x 192.

OH NOES!!!!!!!!

you already act like a cop, finding anything illegal that im doing. my sig? dude come on, sigs cut off now, and im pretty sure this has been my sig for the past 6 months.

[accordtypeR]

Damn bro that really sucks...you have alot of patience..personally if it was me i was getting badge nos...and in order to search my shit you have to a signed warrant from a judge otherwise absolutely NOT..If i know im at fault im very humble but if im not doing a damn thing and im profiled..ITS ON..

[owequitit]

You have a legal right to pull your car over in a place where YOU feel safe and secure.

If they don't like it, fight them, because you have an obligation to ensure your safety, just as they have one to ensure thiers. People can and have been killed in mishaps because they stopped somewhere they shouldn't have.

Besides, you don't know if the person pulling you over is a cop or not. You only know that they have lights. Murderers have lured victims in this manner, and people have been killed.

Your only obligation when being stopped is to acknowledge that you know they are there, by flashing hazards, or in some other way acknowledging them, slowing down, so as not to make them think you are fleeing, and pulling off at the first practical place to stop. If that means it is a gas station 3 miles away, then so be it.

I promise you they are not going to like it, but that is just too damn bad, they will have to get over it, because the precedent has already been set in the higher courts of law. Officers are not the law, they are merely there to try and enforce it, so it is a system with which they will have to live too.

[head4life]

Madspleen shut up you fucking pig wannabe you like to control people thats why you want to be a bully by being one of those dick head cops (or in your case WANTING to be one) IF you ever do become a cop I hope some mother fucker like me doesnt like the way you talk to them and caps you right in the mother fucking mouth you cunt.


*logs out and waits for ban*


oh yeah and madspleen I hope whoever kills you tortures you first and cuts your dick off and shoves it down your throat so no one will have ot hear your dumb government brain washed head any more you pig

[accordtypeR]

You have a legal right to pull your car over in a place where YOU feel safe and secure.

If they don't like it, fight them, because you have an obligation to ensure your safety, just as they have one to ensure thiers. People can and have been killed in mishaps because they stopped somewhere they shouldn't have.

Besides, you don't know if the person pulling you over is a cop or not. You only know that they have lights. Murderers have lured victims in this manner, and people have been killed.

Your only obligation when being stopped is to acknowledge that you know they are there, by flashing hazards, or in some other way acknowledging them, slowing down, so as not to make them think you are fleeing, and pulling off at the first practical place to stop. If that means it is a gas station 3 miles away, then so be it.

I promise you they are not going to like it, but that is just too damn bad, they will have to get over it, because the precedent has already been set in the higher courts of law. Officers are not the law, they are merely there to try and enforce it, so it is a system with which they will have to live too.

I agree 100% with you.

[MadSpleen85]

Madspleen shut up you fucking pig wannabe you like to control people thats why you want to be a bully by being one of those dick head cops (or in your case WANTING to be one) IF you ever do become a cop I hope some mother fucker like me doesnt like the way you talk to them and caps you right in the mother fucking mouth you cunt.


*logs out and waits for ban*


oh yeah and madspleen I hope whoever kills you tortures you first and cuts your dick off and shoves it down your throat so no one will have ot hear your dumb government brain washed head any more you pig

Again with a personal attack. It's getting pretty old too, I'm sure the OP appreciates hearing your mindless e-thug tactics in his thread. Have a nice day.