free energy?!?!

[ACC0RD22]

youre still not destroying matter, because it is still present, but it is just now present as energy.

conservation of mass and conservation of energy are pretty basic principles.

[verothacamaro]

youre still not destroying matter, because it is still present, but it is just now present as energy.

conservation of mass and conservation of energy are pretty basic principles.

properties of matter are present....matter itself is not present.

[lokuputha]

No. youre not understanding this. the definition of perpetual motion is a machine that runs FOREVER on a one time input. if perpetual motion were possible, we would be BATHING in free energy. It is not possible in a world with friction and drag because they create a parasitic presence that saps the energy input. We can reduce this with bearings and aerodynamic designs, but when you find a way to completely eliminate friction, let me (and the rest of the world) know. Im sure they would love to hear it. Drag can be dealt with by working in a vacuum.

yeap, I agree with you. Perpetual motions in its own definition is impossible; thus, the supposed closed systems which seem as though they are operating perpetually, must have an unknown and/or undetected energy input which tends to overcome the natural drag forces. Considering this, these machines can be catagorized as open systems.

I think the issue lies with mainstream science which operates as if we have descovered all the forms of energy in existance. If these unknown energies are taken into account, the named perpetual devices would follow the rules of Thermodynamics, rather look like some sort of blasphemous witchcraft.

If you look into the later works of Nicola Tesla, Thomas Townsend Brown, and even the later Tom Bearden and Peter Lindemann, they all describe an etheric source from which to draw energy. The trick is to do reserach about these energies with an objective attitude; we shouldn't expect to describe these anomolies using our current know-how.

my .02

[lokuputha]

here's a company out of Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

http://xogen.ca/



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrDpzYkgQT0&NR=1

[F22HB]

Now the cost of table salt is going to rise. And the government is going to restrict access to the oceans and saltwater lakes. Then the cost of gas will be 5 cents a gallon. I wonder what frequency that Rf generator is running. Governments are going to have satellites beaming down Rf waves to destroy enemy ships and what not. The possibility's are going to be endless.

LOLOLOLOLROFL!!

[Turbo Dave]

im sure the energy output is not much more than what your microwave would use, but that is still a good amount of energy, of course this discovery is amazing, and it will definately lead to greater things.

[lokuputha]

...actually, Big Oil will probably buy it, sit on it, find ways to discredit it, and when the supplies dry up, "discover" it again

lol...sounds like what GM did to the 1900's Electric tram cars.