question about the government crushing our cars for street racing

[turbomaxx]

why the fuck would they crush cars that are worth thousands of dollars when they could sell them or part them out and donate the money to cancer research or other programs for people or studies that NEED money.





the fucking 16 year old gets it. does that seem like a bad idea to any of you? i mean if they are taking our cars and not giving them back, why cant they atleast get money from them and donate it somewhere?

[MadSpleen85]

It is about setting an example.. Showing that this behavior will not be tolerated and the punishment will mean the end of your car.. When vehicles are simply impounded and then sold there is always that chance that someone close to the person the vehicle was confiscated from is going to buy it and then sell it back to the person that was busted for street racing.

To see how big a problem this kind of thing (Street Racing) is do the following:

Step 1: Visit an at least fair sized Metropolitan area.
Step 2: Aquire a Police Scanner for the local agencies.
Step 3: Stay up all night and listen. (from sunset until at least 7a.m.)

Chances are you will hear AT LEAST 3 complaints, per agency, of street racing. It won't be all Honda's or even imports. Around here there are more complaints on Domestic's then there are on any imports.

Motorcycle's are also becoming a pain for many agencies. A group of 30+ crotch rockets doing 100+ MPH down a 4 lane road where the speed limit is only 45 MPH. And with Motorcycles there is no way one agency can stop that many motorcycles. 9 times out of 10 the motorcycles do not have a license plate that is visible, and if they do there is no way a V8 Crown Vic, or Charger is going to be able to keep up at full speed or come anywhere close to that kind of take off.

EDIT: Several of the first programs that started crushing cars like this, were viewed as a way to get the peers of street racers to see that if they get busted all of their hard work is gone and they are not only losing their ride, they are getting a hefty fine, if not jail time. With their being a chance of your vehicle with some rare parts on it, where the parts alone are worth more then the vehicle in stock form, this is one of those things that Law Enforcement Agencies believe will deture from dangerous and illegal activity such as street racing.. All the money you invested is GONE, not just damaged from a fender bender, it is sitting in the scrap yard crushed beyond recognition..

As an Administration of Justice (Policing and Corrections) Student, I have heard all kinds of stories, from an officer shot and killed in the line of duty to just last year, one of my professor's, his brother an ON-DUTY Police Officer was hit from behind while on his Patrol Motorcycle by a 100% sober 40 year old man that was showing off his recently fully rebuilt and restored 1969 Camaro SS to some random kid in a passing car. Later

[JohnD1079]

I understand the setting of an example part, put it is stull fucking stupid.

Thats like getting someone who is a workaholic, and to get them stop you burn their money. I get it maybe theyll stop becasue if they dont, their money will get burnt up, but still no. Its still fucking stupid. The money from both situations could be put to much better use than melting it all at a metal scrap yard or someshit.

[turbomaxx]

It is about setting an example.. Showing that this behavior will not be tolerated and the punishment will mean the end of your car.. When vehicles are simply impounded and then sold there is always that chance that someone close to the person the vehicle was confiscated from is going to buy it and then sell it back to the person that was busted for street racing.

To see how big a problem this kind of thing (Street Racing) is do the following:

Step 1: Visit an at least fair sized Metropolitan area.
Step 2: Aquire a Police Scanner for the local agencies.
Step 3: Stay up all night and listen. (from sunset until at least 7a.m.)

Chances are you will hear AT LEAST 3 complaints, per agency, of street racing. It won't be all Honda's or even imports. Around here there are more complaints on Domestic's then there are on any imports.

Motorcycle's are also becoming a pain for many agencies. A group of 30+ crotch rockets doing 100+ MPH down a 4 lane road where the speed limit is only 45 MPH. And with Motorcycles there is no way one agency can stop that many motorcycles. 9 times out of 10 the motorcycles do not have a license plate that is visible, and if they do there is no way a V8 Crown Vic, or Charger is going to be able to keep up at full speed or come anywhere close to that kind of take off.

EDIT: Several of the first programs that started crusing cars like this, were viewed as a way to get the peers of street racers to see that if they get busted all of their hard work is gone and they are not only losing their ride, they are getting a hefty fine, if not jail time. With their being a chance of your vehicle with some rare parts on it, where the parts alone are worth more then the vehicle in stock form, this is one of those things that Law Enforcement Agencies believe will deture from dangerous and illegal activity such as street racing.. All the money you invested is GONE, not just damaged from a fender bender, it is sitting in the scrap yard crushed beyond recognition.. Later

i fully understand that, but still, its just such a waste ya know?

BTW nice to have ya back lol

[turbomaxx]

I understand the setting of an example part, put it is stull fucking stupid.

Thats like getting someone who is a workaholic, and to get them stop you burn their money. I get it maybe theyll stop becasue if they dont, their money will get burnt up, but still no. Its still fucking stupid. The money from both situations could be put to much better use than melting it all at a metal scrap yard or someshit.

yeah thats a good analogy

[MadSpleen85]

My first post EDITED and added too..

Yes, it is too bad for the people that put all the wrench hours and the thousands of dollars of parts into these cars. It is one of those things that is meant to set an example to in a sense scare some street racers straight..

BTW nice to have ya back lol

Yeah being banned sucks. Flaming a n00b is NOT worth 24 hours with no CB7tuner.. And deev went easy on me, it could have been a week.. Later

[turbomaxx]

My first post EDITED and added too..

Yes, it is too bad for the people that put all the wrench hours and the thousands of dollars of parts into these cars. It is one of those things that is meant to set an example to in a sense scare some street racers straight..


Yeah being banned sucks. Flaming a n00b is NOT worth 24 hours with no CB7tuner.. And deev went easy on me, it could have been a week.. Later

lol i figured that did it..


thanks for your input on this subject tho. i dunno its just something thats bothered me since i heard about them crushing our cars... SUCH a waste ya know?

[NAiL05]

Stolen parts. I know owequitit has an answer to this he answered it to the original thread.

[turbomaxx]

Stolen parts. I know owequitit has an answer to this he answered it to the original thread.

yeah i think i originally heard the idea on here somehwere and was like thats the best thing that could be done about all this...


owequitit man im awaiting your input man.


not trying to pick a fight just carry on a 2 sided discussion

[deevergote]

If your car is going to get crushed, you probably won't want to risk those thousands of dollars worth of parts. If it's going to be sold, you'll just buy it back.


Even though I would HATE it... people should have to get a permit to modify their car. It'll be on record that they've altered the car for performance, and they could be required to pass additional awareness and safety examinations. At the very least, it'll be one more chance to impress upon them the dangers of racing.

I mean, lifted trucks need papers... slammed, souped up cars probably should as well!


I'm not really an advocate of this idea... but I think it would work better than crushing the poor things!

I wonder if a Skyline ever got crushed...

[palinix]

SUCH a waste ya know?

Most people like us, who enjoy modifying our cars, a subset of our group being those who street race their cars, will feel this way.

The authorities know this and use it to their advantage to deter the problem. I think it's as simple as that.

[turbomaxx]

Most people like us, who enjoy modifying our cars, a subset of our group being those who street race their cars, will feel this way.

The authorities know this and use it to their advantage to deter the problem. I think it's as simple as that.

i think u guys are missing my point tho.


i get why they are doing it. it sends a message to us. it scares us. it takes away what we love and gives no chance of ever getting it back.


but no matter how u slice it, its like having money to donate to a needy caus, and burning it.

[deevergote]

If the government is involved in reselling just one stolen part, problems will arise. If they sell the cars or parts, they're potentially encouraging the same activity that they're trying to stop.

It's like jail. It'd be a lot cheaper to just fine many criminals, like drug dealers. The government could make a killing by slapping the dealers with heavy fines, instead of spending lots of money to lock them up... However, when the dealers are pulling in a fortune, they won't mind the fines. It won't stop the activity. Taking away someone's freedom is a different story. It's not profitable, quite the opposite... but NOBODY wants to go to jail! Except maybe the homeless... a roof and 3 square meals a day... I'd do it!

[palinix]

i think u guys are missing my point tho.


i get why they are doing it. it sends a message to us. it scares us. it takes away what we love and gives no chance of ever getting it back.


but no matter how u slice it, its like having money to donate to a needy caus, and burning it.

It's been mentioned before in this thread. By making money off the cars they would simply be, in a way, giving back what they have taken away to make a point.

[MadSpleen85]

no matter how u slice it, its like having money to donate to a needy caus, and burning it.

This is in a sense true, but, if they were to part out the cars or sell them whole, these, in some cases very rare, parts are right back out for the public to have.. Taking them away forever, making these once rare parts even closer to being impossible to find, is the take no prisoners approach to fighting the problem. IMO it is a great idea. My CB is nothing spectacular to everyone that looks at it, hell some think it is 100% stock besides the exhaust and HID's, but a BIG part of me would die if it was taken away like that. If I had to stand there and watch such a great machine, with all my blood, sweat, tears, money and wrench hours invested, be demolished into scrap metal. Later