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    i need some closure, words of advice... something.... This is long...

    I love my mom, most of you know that, ive made a thread or two about her, like the time she had her stroke, and lots of you helped me cope through it. thanks...

    I also love my girlfriend. Now, its not the same kind of love that i have for my mom, not even close. but i do really care about my girl.

    well, some of you may already know about the problems she has with her dad because i made a thread a while back about that, too. I think

    well, the situation is that she can't go out, or do pretty much anything for that matter, untill she shows her dad her quarterly progress report from school. (this was about a month and a half ago, and she still hasent showed him)
    and because of their huge argument, and him kicking her out, she vowed to "not work with him" which i can understand. so shes just going to take his punishment.

    so because of that, the past few times (more like three times), we've hung out at her school. without her dad knowing.

    well, Wensday is valentines day. and im not the type of kid to do shit behind my parents back, so i go ask my mom, if we (my girl and I) can hang out tomorrow afterschool for valentines day. we cant wensday, because if she comes home late wensday, her dad will definately get suspicious about that.

    well, my mom says "I dont know, Danny, let me talk to your dad..."
    "Mom, ... If you don't want me to go... then i dont want to go knowing that your uncomfortable..."

    now, i swear, im not talking to her with an attitude at all. and my mom, she's actaully pretty steamed and has a raised voice

    "Danny. No, i dont want you to go. you just saw her last week!"
    "But, mom, it was for her birthday..."
    "I dont want you seeing her everytime just because its some kind of occasion."

    when she said that, im thinking "wtf? that constitutes a 'how could you?' "

    "... But I said I would talk to your dad, and see what he says, because i dont want to be unfair..."

    THEN she starts getting all weird on me

    "Danny, you cant just keep giving this girl what she wants. she dosent like it when your just 'right there' for her. she likes a guy thats hard to get, not one whos at her all the time like a lost little puppy"

    "but mom, shes not like that...."

    "Dont be so stupid, Danny, ALL girls are like that. Your not a challenge to her."

    "Mom, she is not like that..."

    "Yes they are!!"

    At this point in time, if my mom were one of my friends, i probably would have socked the shit out of him. taking into account that i wouldn't hit a girl. But shes my mom, so, i just kept my cool and didnt even raise my voice. in fact, i think i was sounding a little helpless and timid....

    "And whats with 'Can I please call you back?' why would you have to fucking beg her? Why cant you just be a man and say 'Hey, im gonna call you back"

    ok, NOW im thinking "What.. the.......... hell....??? Isnt that common courtesy?"

    "Um. mom. she tells me that too. its not like im under her. we treat each other the exact same."

    "Danny, Why dont you be a man. She's just playing with you, you dont know... She tells her cousins and her girlfriends "Watch when i tell him this he does it. or watch when i do this, listen to what he says" How do you know she dosent have you on speaker phone sometimes when you two talk?!"

    ok, now im thinking "un-fucking believe-able....."

    so bottom line, she's still going to talk to my dad about me "going"

    FAR be it from me to sound like a spoiled little teenager. but my mom is not fair, and shes wrong.

    ive had my girlfriends sister. hell. her MOM has even called and talked to me telling me "You know, my daughter really cares about you. she is always talking to me about you. I'm so happy you can help her through her situations with her father. etc etc insert more 'praise' here."

    my girl confides in me, she's told me things that i cant even begin to imagine her telling any one else. we click, its so damn weird. my mom says "Oh, i see you all In love and shit..."

    yeah i am in love, but what the hell is wrong with that? I've had many girlfriends, and i never liked any of them. and if i did, it was for the wrong, lustful reasons, that just got me in trouble. with the girlfriend, their friends etc

    I may be young, but im not stupid. And i do not want to sound cliche teenager, but my mom dosent understand. but its still extremely hard breaking from her grasp, when ive been held down so much as a younger kid, i've been so shelted. and i just have the image of my mom being "God" to me burnt heavily into my mind, and that kinda frightens me....

    But being with Aracely, it makes me really want to tell my parents to just butt out, if she really is playing me which i seriously doubt. let me live and learn. and that this is a situation where if i want your opinion, i will ask for it. its something that they DONT and probably CANT understand because we've grown up completely different ways (my parents and I) and there are things aracely and I have talked about, which shows me that she really does care, that i dont want to tell my mom about, because i know she will be heart broken. because she has that mothers love, and she dosent want to be "challanged"

    Christ, other parents are so fucking chill with their kid going out, and having a girlfriend. why does my mom have to be SO controlling.

    i would LOVE to talk to my dad, but im so afraid that he will not understand. i really do look up to my father. more than he will probably ever know. but under my mom... its like... i dont know... my mom has more power over my dad....

    FUCK!

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    Originally posted by JoshM
    Okay to do: "I'm sorry I broke your mailbox, here's $100.
    NOT okay to do: "I'm sorry I fucked your sister, here's $100.

    #2
    Originally posted by lil_dcb7
    I love my mom, most of you know that, ive made a thread or two about her, like the time she had her stroke, and lots of you helped me cope through it. thanks...

    I also love my girlfriend. Now, its not the same kind of love that i have for my mom, not even close. but i do really care about my girl.

    well, some of you may already know about the problems she has with her dad because i made a thread a while back about that, too. I think

    well, the situation is that she can't go out, or do pretty much anything for that matter, untill she shows her dad her quarterly progress report from school. (this was about a month and a half ago, and she still hasent showed him)
    and because of their huge argument, and him kicking her out, she vowed to "not work with him" which i can understand. so shes just going to take his punishment.

    so because of that, the past few times (more like three times), we've hung out at her school. without her dad knowing.

    well, Wensday is valentines day. and im not the type of kid to do shit behind my parents back, so i go ask my mom, if we (my girl and I) can hang out tomorrow afterschool for valentines day. we cant wensday, because if she comes home late wensday, her dad will definately get suspicious about that.

    well, my mom says "I dont know, Danny, let me talk to your dad..."
    "Mom, ... If you don't want me to go... then i dont want to go knowing that your uncomfortable..."

    now, i swear, im not talking to her with an attitude at all. and my mom, she's actaully pretty steamed and has a raised voice

    "Danny. No, i dont want you to go. you just saw her last week!"
    "But, mom, it was for her birthday..."
    "I dont want you seeing her everytime just because its some kind of occasion."

    when she said that, im thinking "wtf? that constitutes a 'how could you?' "

    "... But I said I would talk to your dad, and see what he says, because i dont want to be unfair..."

    THEN she starts getting all weird on me

    "Danny, you cant just keep giving this girl what she wants. she dosent like it when your just 'right there' for her. she likes a guy thats hard to get, not one whos at her all the time like a lost little puppy"

    "but mom, shes not like that...."

    "Dont be so stupid, Danny, ALL girls are like that. Your not a challenge to her."

    "Mom, she is not like that..."

    "Yes they are!!"

    At this point in time, if my mom were one of my friends, i probably would have socked the shit out of him. taking into account that i wouldn't hit a girl. But shes my mom, so, i just kept my cool and didnt even raise my voice. in fact, i think i was sounding a little helpless and timid....

    "And whats with 'Can I please call you back?' why would you have to fucking beg her? Why cant you just be a man and say 'Hey, im gonna call you back"

    ok, NOW im thinking "What.. the.......... hell....??? Isnt that common courtesy?"

    "Um. mom. she tells me that too. its not like im under her. we treat each other the exact same."

    "Danny, Why dont you be a man. She's just playing with you, you dont know... She tells her cousins and her girlfriends "Watch when i tell him this he does it. or watch when i do this, listen to what he says" How do you know she dosent have you on speaker phone sometimes when you two talk?!"

    ok, now im thinking "un-fucking believe-able....."

    so bottom line, she's still going to talk to my dad about me "going"

    FAR be it from me to sound like a spoiled little teenager. but my mom is not fair, and shes wrong.

    ive had my girlfriends sister. hell. her MOM has even called and talked to me telling me "You know, my daughter really cares about you. she is always talking to me about you. I'm so happy you can help her through her situations with her father. etc etc insert more 'praise' here."

    my girl confides in me, she's told me things that i cant even begin to imagine her telling any one else. we click, its so damn weird. my mom says "Oh, i see you all In love and shit..."

    yeah i am in love, but what the hell is wrong with that? I've had many girlfriends, and i never liked any of them. and if i did, it was for the wrong, lustful reasons, that just got me in trouble. with the girlfriend, their friends etc

    I may be young, but im not stupid. And i do not want to sound cliche teenager, but my mom dosent understand. but its still extremely hard breaking from her grasp, when ive been held down so much as a younger kid, i've been so shelted. and i just have the image of my mom being "God" to me burnt heavily into my mind, and that kinda frightens me....

    But being with Aracely, it makes me really want to tell my parents to just butt out, if she really is playing me which i seriously doubt. let me live and learn. and that this is a situation where if i want your opinion, i will ask for it. its something that they DONT and probably CANT understand because we've grown up completely different ways (my parents and I) and there are things aracely and I have talked about, which shows me that she really does care, that i dont want to tell my mom about, because i know she will be heart broken. because she has that mothers love, and she dosent want to be "challanged"

    Christ, other parents are so fucking chill with their kid going out, and having a girlfriend. why does my mom have to be SO controlling.

    i would LOVE to talk to my dad, but im so afraid that he will not understand. i really do look up to my father. more than he will probably ever know. but under my mom... its like... i dont know... my mom has more power over my dad....

    FUCK!

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    My girl does as a matter of fact, make me extremely happy. I wish my family could see that. and let me be HAPPY. it makes me depressed as hell that i only see her once every blue freaking moon. yes, i do talk to her on the phone daily. because i hardly ever get to chill with her. thats why i get so down. my chick tells me the same thing too. she really wants to hang out, because she misses me. that and the fact that i cant stand putting up with my little sister. that gets me depressed

    and its just fucking WONDERFUL that my mom has to automatically think, that because im in a bad mood, its my girlfriends fault. thats so damn low and wrong. my grilfriend and I have only argued ONCE! without exaggerating... that has gotten me to the point of being upset.

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    Alice - '97 BMW 540i6 - Dinan Tuned. - Low Profile Weekend Warrior.

    Felicia - '11 Ford Fusion - Luxury Package - Daily.. daily.. ugh.


    Originally posted by JoshM
    Okay to do: "I'm sorry I broke your mailbox, here's $100.
    NOT okay to do: "I'm sorry I fucked your sister, here's $100.

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      #3
      When I have time, I will tell you about some of my previous relationships. Maybe you won't feel so bad. Reguardless, I hope that your mother snaps out of it.

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        #4
        I hate to get all religious but Bible says to "Honor your father and mother", I try to live by that- hoping I don't goto hell.

        But with that said, you just gotta sit and wait, y'know? Things will all come out in the end. If you do your part, and you know where you stand it sounds like (between your mom and your girl), then you'll just have to wait. There's not a whole bunch you can do. She is your mother.

        ...and the thing about your mother having more power than your dad- duh. She's the woman in the relationship.

        Hope all goes well, and Happy Valentines regardless,
        -pax
        Seattle, WA

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          #5
          wow dude i read that whole thing, well heres my advice man.
          i can see where your mom is coming from in her own mind.

          but think for a second ( i dont know the situation at all) but maybe your mom sees it as if though that girl has you whipped! and its not a bad whipped its that your so in love with her that you put her before yourself.

          i think thats what your mom sees, also maybe some jealousy issues. im only speculating, but she def did freak out, and i do understand the im gonna call you back thing it just gives you space to say your still independent and because you have to be.

          girls can becoming controlling in a nonviolent and innocent way, they are not senile creatures.

          so i hjoped that help man. and dude definately do something for her on valentines. you better get laid.
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            #6
            I dont get to see my gf alot either. shes back in connecticut, and Im in PA for school. She wanted to come down for the weekend next weekend, and she asked her mom, and she was basically told "No, you cant, because I said so." Now, Im not horribly broken up by this, because Im gonna be home for vacation in 2 weeks, and I just saw her last weekend for my birthday, but her mom does this to her alot, so I can kinda see why it would make her mad. Kinda sounds like the situation youre in. Honestly, it sucks, and I feel for you. Im just glad my parents were never like that.
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              #7
              also, i went a whole year strong with my girl when she went to a diff school, then she came to my school and it fell apart for 6 monhts straight because we saw each other so much, it just kept getting worse and more fights and went downhill... i still have trouble finding a purpose to live for after her. its the worst thing thats ever happened to me luckily my cb7 cant dump me or else i would def kill myself.
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                #8
                don't worry too much about it man....I think u r expecting your mom to be perfect and understand everything you are going through...which is not the case...although we would like it to be so...

                Think in terms of what would have made your mom think that way?...Why wouldn't she understand your point of view?....

                most misunderstandings or disappointments occur because we tend to judge according to our own standards and perceptions, without being in tuned to the perceptions of those we judge.

                good luck with everything
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                  #9
                  its really weird.

                  the relationship that my girlfriend and I have is extremely tight. and i dont find her controlling one bit. my girlfriend never ever tells me what to do. yeah, she'll suggest something. but thats as far as she's ever gone, when it has to do with me.

                  she tells me that she wants me to do whatever i want to do, as long as it makes me happy. she said, that she will do whatever she could do as long as it makes me happy. she told me that if i ended up not loving her through out our relationship and i wasnt happy, that she would leave me if i asked her too, no matter how in love she is with me.

                  she really does try to make me happy. and not only does that fact make me happy, she actually does make me happy with the things she does. even if its stupid shit, like i'll tell her to put her hair a certian way because i like it.

                  i dont know if its wrong. i dont think it is, because i am happy, and she is happy.

                  Claire - '92 Mercedes-Benz 500E - AMG&Bilstein Treatment - The Wolf in Sheep's clothing.

                  Alice - '97 BMW 540i6 - Dinan Tuned. - Low Profile Weekend Warrior.

                  Felicia - '11 Ford Fusion - Luxury Package - Daily.. daily.. ugh.


                  Originally posted by JoshM
                  Okay to do: "I'm sorry I broke your mailbox, here's $100.
                  NOT okay to do: "I'm sorry I fucked your sister, here's $100.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by lokuputha
                    most misunderstandings or disappointments occur because we tend to judge according to our own standards and perceptions, without being in tuned to the perceptions of those we judge.
                    wow i love you

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                    Alice - '97 BMW 540i6 - Dinan Tuned. - Low Profile Weekend Warrior.

                    Felicia - '11 Ford Fusion - Luxury Package - Daily.. daily.. ugh.


                    Originally posted by JoshM
                    Okay to do: "I'm sorry I broke your mailbox, here's $100.
                    NOT okay to do: "I'm sorry I fucked your sister, here's $100.

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                      #11
                      There seems to be some weird Oedipus shit going on...like your mom is trying to mold you to be a BF she would want (no incest). She doesn't understand the dynamic of your relationship. In any case, if she's saying 'dont go cause you gotta play hard to get' it sounds like she's not too serious...I would go. But if she's like 'i dont want you to go, you go out too much' then I'd stay home.


                      Originally posted by lordoja
                      im with you on that one bro! aint nothing beat free food and drinks any day of the week, even if its at a funeral

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by gloryaccordy
                        There seems to be some weird Oedipus shit going on...like your mom is trying to mold you to be a BF she would want (no incest). She doesn't understand the dynamic of your relationship. In any case, if she's saying 'dont go cause you gotta play hard to get' it sounds like she's not too serious...I would go. But if she's like 'i dont want you to go, you go out too much' then I'd stay home.

                        bro, i hardly ever leave my house. Im always here stuck baby sitting my little sister. i NEVER get to leave. and if i do, she HAS to tag along. it sucks.

                        but guess who told me "Son, its ok, you can go." with a COMPLETELY change of attitude.

                        i seriously think my dad told her something, and something good. because my mom had no where near the same attitude she had when i talked to her eariler that night.

                        so hopefully i get to see her today.

                        if not today, then on friday.... we'll see.....

                        Claire - '92 Mercedes-Benz 500E - AMG&Bilstein Treatment - The Wolf in Sheep's clothing.

                        Alice - '97 BMW 540i6 - Dinan Tuned. - Low Profile Weekend Warrior.

                        Felicia - '11 Ford Fusion - Luxury Package - Daily.. daily.. ugh.


                        Originally posted by JoshM
                        Okay to do: "I'm sorry I broke your mailbox, here's $100.
                        NOT okay to do: "I'm sorry I fucked your sister, here's $100.

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                          #13
                          well it looks like its getting better then man.

                          im only 16 and havnt had a lot of gfs to try to tell you what helps or so on and so forth. i dont know much about relationships and im not gonna act like i do.

                          what i can say is as far as your parents pulling this crap on you all the time like they do, try to stay cool like u have. you dont know how long theyll be there man, and its the worst feeling in the world to say something bad to someone and have them leave this life before you can make things better...

                          and just remember that they rnt doing it to hold you down. if anything im sure they r just afraid that there "baby" is all grown up. they realize that you dont need them anymore really and that scares them.
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                            #14
                            that sucks bro....I was never that close to my mom or dad so neither one never and couldnt make any decision regarding any girls I dated or messed around with. Seeing that I've never experienced anything remotely similar to this my opinions might be biased so i will not say anything at all. It seems like things still work out for you Mr. Sexy make sure you make the time you are going to spend with her today or friday worth it
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                              #15
                              wow...im flattered..! glad my 2 cents count for something
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