Help your friendly neighborhood admin! (I think my motor is done...)

[deevergote]

Ok, so as some of you know (and the rest of you are finding out now) my motor is on the way out. It started knocking pretty badly today, and I don't want to risk driving it as it is any longer. I heard the knocking start about 70 miles from home, and it got be back here, thankfully. I won't ask any more of it!


What I'm asking for here is a little help. You guys know I'm broke (and since my job requires a car, I'm even more so now!) I need to rebuild the motor! I want to do it right... if I'm going to crack it open, I want to sleeve and run forged internals (not sure if I want to go boost or NA now... my options are open... SC still appeals to me).

I'm not asking for money... that would just be wrong. However, I AM asking if you guys can pull whatever strings you may have to help me get my motor built as cheaply as possible (with good parts...)

I can offer advertising on the site as payment or partial payment as well, for any company that can do some work or provide some parts. I'm sure a banner for a relevant company would be MUCH more welcome than the "Discount On-Line Pharmacy" banner that I'm looking at right now!


I'm going to need sleeves, pistons, rods, perhaps a crank... I haven't had to seriously consider what was going to go inside my motor until now, so I really don't know exactly what I want. I suppose that may depend on what is availible!


So, any assistance, suggestions, etc... would be more than welcome. I'm in a bind, and my CB7 is down and out until I can get this motor going good again.

[d112crzy]

is there no way you could get anything through your sponsorship? or is that no more?

[wed3k]

i have a bottom end in my garage however no engine stand.
it was getting 28mpg and p[assed smog when i pulled it.

[deevergote]

is there no way you could get anything through your sponsorship? or is that no more?

That's no more... I never really went through with anything anyway, since I wasn't able to participate in any events. Toasted clutch owned me


So far, from what I've been able to see, I'm looking at about $1000-$1200 for decent quality rods and pistons (with rings and wrist pins).
Bearings, I'm not sure exactly what I'll be needing, so I don't know what the prices I'm looking at will be.
A crank... I think I'd like to go with an F22 crank, if I can get proper pistons to avoid valve contact. I have no idea what it would cost to properly modify an F22 crank into an H22 stroker crank.
Sleeves, I've seen Darton sleeves for about $60 each, and I've heard varying reports on how much shops charge to sleeve a block. I'd like to bore out for larger displacement (with the f22 crank and a larger bore, I want to be around 2point6's 2.44L... that's been my plan for a long time now, ever since he mentioned it to me).

I don't want to use crap parts... I want it to last, since I plan on putting at least another 100,000 miles on this car before any other major work!

[texasvtak]

Ive been reading up and Mahle pistons/Eagle rods would be fine for low/mid boost with stock sleeves. To use a "stroker" crank, youd need to balance/micropolish/knife edge/whatever or try and find a forged f22 or h23 crank. Assuming you want mileage out of it anyway

Then again, Im no expert.

[MRX]

do you have the money to afford the sleeving? Honestly i'd just get the mahle pistons and a set of rods and call it a day.

[DhN]

id suggest trhe h22 package from http://www.importperformanceparts.net/

also on honda-tech theres guy doing build a block packages...for around 1300-1500 youll get the sleeves pistons rods etc

or go to camp1320.com theyll sleeve your block for less than 1000 including sleeves...i belive your motor gets hot tanked and etc

[d112crzy]

eh, i wouldnt buy from that guy on h-t.

he posts one price, but after you pm him he gives you a completely different price.

also, for the prices he listed, its only off the shelf parts.

and id go with camp1320 for sleeving fo sho.

[deevergote]

do you have the money to afford the sleeving? Honestly i'd just get the mahle pistons and a set of rods and call it a day.

I don't have the money to do ANYTHING right now But I'm hoping that by finding the cheapest route, I can do things the right way perhaps this spring or summer. Maybe sooner if I can work out some sort of deal with a shop (sponsoring my car, plus advertising on this site to replace the Clicksor ads...)

The Mahle pistons appeal to me, but knowing that I have a knock, I don't know what sort of damage it has already done to the cylinder wall. Resleeving might be my only option.



Joe, thanks for the links! $1500 for a full bottom end is a damn good deal... might not be the quality I'm looking for, but it's certainly worth a look!

[texasvtak]

You can bore the frm sleeves once, from what Ive read, and only like .025 or something. Then get the overbore pistons. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1406865 has a ton of info on the Mahles.

[d112crzy]

theres nothing wrong with your sleeves besides normal tear and wear.

most of the time, when you hear knock its your bearings, or lack of bearings.

[Gemini]

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[Dv8]

if you cant get the coin for an aftermarket build im sure i can get OE honda stuff for dirt cheap. or if you need f series parts, i along with many other members i am sure have many engines lying around we could donate parts from.

[deevergote]

Very true. F series stuff shouldn't be hard to find. My local junkyard has half a dozen CB7s at all times, it seems... and they rotate fairly frequently.

The aftermarket build is what I would really prefer. I don't feel like ripping into the motor more than once in the near future, and if I'm going to do it, I want something better than what I have now!

If I can find good deals on the parts, I can possibly barter for the labor.

The Mahle pistons aren't a bad idea though... if I go turbo, I may forgo the overbore and just run the mahles. I dunno... I'm still getting my thoughts together!

I just drove the icebox (the heatless volvo) and I suppose it's not THAT bad. Maybe I will just hang onto it and build the motor...

[Maple50175]

eh, i have no money for you. noone gave me $$ when ive wasted 1,600$ with 3 blown engines etc

Sorry