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    25 troops died in iraq today

    and now bush is sending in more reinforcements... his disapproval rate is up to 65 percent and congress doesnt want to fund him. what a fucking moron. this is just another vietnam, except without hippies...
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    I have yet to understand our purpose over there... They don't want us there, we don't want to be there... yet for some reason, we're there. There IS no war in Iraq. We defeated the dictator, put a new government in place, and now we're still occupying the country. The government we put in place should have control over the Iraqi military. Any rebel groups should be THEIR problem.

    Honestly, from what I can gather, the strongest leadership presence in Iraq is NOT the government we put in place. The middle-eastern society is not going to take kindly to the Americanization of their nation (how much do you want to bet there are more McDonlads and KFCs in Iraq than there were 3 years ago?)


    I'm not a politican. I'm not a military strategist. I barely watch the news. That makes my opinion quite uneducated. However, there are probably more people like me in this country than not. For a cause that our friends and family are dying for, I think EVERYBODY should understand the true reasons for it!

    Bush IS a moron, but I don't think he really impacts anything. He's a figrehead. Even moreso than presidents before him. The man was put in power because he's likable. He's more like Joe American than most, and people accept that. They think he is one of them, and they are right. Just like them, good ol' W is probably just as much in the dark about what's really going on. (conspiracy theory, I know... I can't claim any facts behind it, other than the fact that this man IS a moron, and those behind him seem significantly smarter... and decidedly more sneaky)






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      #3
      Originally posted by deevergote
      I have yet to understand our purpose over there... They don't want us there, we don't want to be there... yet for some reason, we're there. There IS no war in Iraq. We defeated the dictator, put a new government in place, and now we're still occupying the country. The government we put in place should have control over the Iraqi military. Any rebel groups should be THEIR problem.

      Honestly, from what I can gather, the strongest leadership presence in Iraq is NOT the government we put in place. The middle-eastern society is not going to take kindly to the Americanization of their nation (how much do you want to bet there are more McDonlads and KFCs in Iraq than there were 3 years ago?)


      I'm not a politican. I'm not a military strategist. I barely watch the news. That makes my opinion quite uneducated. However, there are probably more people like me in this country than not. For a cause that our friends and family are dying for, I think EVERYBODY should understand the true reasons for it!

      Bush IS a moron, but I don't think he really impacts anything. He's a figrehead. Even moreso than presidents before him. The man was put in power because he's likable. He's more like Joe American than most, and people accept that. They think he is one of them, and they are right. Just like them, good ol' W is probably just as much in the dark about what's really going on. (conspiracy theory, I know... I can't claim any facts behind it, other than the fact that this man IS a moron, and those behind him seem significantly smarter... and decidedly more sneaky)
      Probably the most intellectual-sounding statement against Bush I've ever read. Good job, Mike.

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        i cant wait to read these events in history books to see what it says...

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          #5
          Originally posted by According2Aaron
          Probably the most intellectual-sounding statement against Bush I've ever read. Good job, Mike.
          Eh, I wouldn't say "intellectual'... I just don't believe in spouting ill-gotten "facts" and using them to support my opinion I may not know much, but I manage to base my opinion on what I'm able to observe.

          Someone could tell me that Bush is doing a great job, and give me reasons for it, and they'd probably be right. Likewise, someone could do the same in telling me how horrible he is (I've seen more of that). Regardless, I've seen very few people look at everything with little or no bias.

          The actions of the US are rediculous, though. Regardless of who issues the orders. We're seen as pompous busybody bullies by most countries. As a whole, we are undereducated, overfed, overpaid, and far too arrogant.
          To bring it home to a level that applies directly to us: You know the people who have put a LOT of effort into their cars here? The people that seem to always help, but often be rather snippy at the questions that have already been answered numerous times? Those people are like the rest of the world. The people who want everything cheap, easy, and NOW... the people that everyone rolls their eyes at... The way we see those people is the way the rest of the world views America.

          Sadly, to a point, they're right. Hell, I've been sitting on my computer eating Doritos for the past 4 hours. Spent most of the time watching anime that someone else translated for me (because I'm too lazy to bother trying to learn Japanese, even though I have a ton of "learn Japanese" stuff downloaded for free). I've done nothing productive.






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            #6
            Originally posted by deevergote
            I've done nothing productive.
            In my eyes neither has Bush.

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              #7
              Originally posted by N9netwoAccord
              In my eyes neither has Bush.
              and i don't think Kerry would have been a great alternative either. I really wish there was some president out there that would stand as a moderate (i know independents sometimes), but still..
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                #8
                Not to be pist at the thread starter but....

                In my opinion, its a fu**ing war. People might fu**ing die. no sh**!!!! news is making it a big deal. -Mike
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                  #9
                  im loving the sig man
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                    #10
                    ha. hell yeah.
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                      #11
                      http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/

                      i always watch this.. ive known some a few have been in my unit

                      yeah we wont pull out for a while we are in too deep

                      i guess the count has to hit 5000

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                        #12
                        click on this link.. its my above post.. but somebody used the faces of the fallen and made the president into it
                        http://www.antiwar.com/blog/images/uploads/Bush_faces

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                          #13
                          the war is all about oil from wat i think...fu BUSH1!!!!!

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by sackingz123
                            the war is all about oil from wat i think...fu BUSH1!!!!!
                            deev, [no offense, sackingz] this is the kind of thing I was thinking about that makes me consider your post "intellectual" and "not-spewing-of-bullshizzle." That is all.

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                              #15
                              i suppose it is worth mentioning that today was the bloodiest day of 2007 (so far) for iraqi citizens.

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