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[KA RPS13]

Nice!

[Raceboy]

lol.... fuckin' KNEW you were gonna say that. You don't have to be an owner to do that. It's just so irritating how so many people automatically think the sr is fucking GOD and anything else should be burned and pissed on in favor of it. Somehow I think you know a little better, so that's good. Torque is good. Torque is better when it happens really early, like the KA. I know you know that.

just like the H22 is considered GOD whats the difference bro? most people that hate on vtecs or SR20's are people that never had one. one of my homies has a 93 sentra with a boosted SR20 and i've raced him SEVRAL times with my CB and i get clowned every time plus i've drove his car it's badass. plus the homie ryan (Laguna7) has a boosted SR20. so knock it off with that fanboy shit. i bet if you owned a boosted SR20 we wouldn't even be having this discusion. people are on the SR20's nuts for a reason bro. hmmmmmm lets see............RESULTS!!!!!!!!!

[lil_dcb7]

just like the H22 is considered GOD whats the difference bro? most people that hate on vtecs or SR20's are people that never had one. one of my homies has a 93 sentra with a boosted SR20 and i've raced him SEVRAL times with my CB and i get clowned every time plus i've drove his car it's badass. plus the homie ryan (Laguna7) has a boosted SR20. so knock it off with that fanboy shit. i bet if you owned a boosted SR20 we wouldn't even be having this discusion. people are on the SR20's nuts for a reason bro. hmmmmmm lets see............RESULTS!!!!!!!!!

the 7M aint a bad motor either, guys

[Dirty Harry]

just like the H22 is considered GOD whats the difference bro? most people that hate on vtecs or SR20's are people that never had one. one of my homies has a 93 sentra with a boosted SR20 and i've raced him SEVRAL times with my CB and i get clowned every time plus i've drove his car it's badass. plus the homie ryan (Laguna7) has a boosted SR20. so knock it off with that fanboy shit. i bet if you owned a boosted SR20 we wouldn't even be having this discusion. people are on the SR20's nuts for a reason bro. hmmmmmm lets see............RESULTS!!!!!!!!!

You missed my most recent post before this one. I'm not saying it sucks, I never said anything close to saying it sucks, in fact the sr is quite a good motor. The mindless opposition to anything else by those who truely don't know is what I think fucking sucks.

What also sucks is the fact I had to repeat myself.

[Laguna7]

^^^^What also Sucks is that for the Last two years I haven't been able to show my car to ANYONE without them asking "Where do you go drifting" ... It's a drag car dammit! I do see the Doc's point... It's the Lame fact that TOO MANY PEOPLE are quick to jump on the BandWagon... and don't even know jack shit. but, Oh that's cool now.. I think i'll buy one and be like everyone ELSE! End of Rant....

[sj960]

Yea man, the KA is definitely a sweet motor. I posted on here somewhere about my girlfriends cousins s13 with a turbo KA. He has this real time tuning stuff, full datalogging and real time tune on stock ecu....
With an LSD, a t3/t4 turbo (forget trim) 6psi, slightly tuned (he doesnt have a wideband yet) he ran a 13.2 at like 111 or something like that. That is damn fast for 6 pounds man. And whoever was saying stuff about the torque curve, you're right, it doesn't curve!!!

[Raceboy]

What also sucks is the fact I had to repeat myself.

stupid shit fund: $7.25

[AccordWarrior]

Well, this ones for the people that know cars, their good with statistics and specs etc...

Well, my friend and I are arguing to see who would win in a straight race,

Me and My MK3 Toyota Supra Non Turbo

or

Him and his s13 Nissan 240sx Hatch with CAI

alot of factors come up, like power to weight, obviously his car has me beat a few pounds(MK3=3,620 lbs), but last i heard, the 7M-GE (my supra engine) pushes around 210 horses to the rear wheels stock.

his car weighs about 2,850 pounds and puts out 150 horses to the rear wheels.

what do you guys think?

and we really dont have the opportunity to go out and race because we dont have our licenses...

I hate to poke holes in your theory, but there's no way the 240 will put 150 to the rear wheels. For that to happen, the car would have to have about 173 hp stock. (assuming a 15% drivetrain loss...It might be slightly more or less with RWD, I'm using 15% since I know that's about what a FWD is, I forget for RWD) The car only has 155 hp stock (assuming its the SE), so according to your calculation, the CAI adds 18 hp? Figure the CAI adds even 5 hp (assuming a good one, etc, etc) to the wheels...you're looking at roughly 138 whp.

Again...your Supra has 200 hp crank...so figure you're putting around 170 hp to the wheels.

So right now the 240sx has a power/weight of 0.0484 At stock HP (155 crank), you're looking at a power/weight of 0.0462

The Supra has a power/weight of 0.0469

Now other elements such as torque/traction/driver ability comes into consideration.

If its not a straight line, you have to add into the equation where the powerband is, the suspension set, etc, etc. There are far too many variables...but basically in a straight line, I'd actually think the 240 might pull, but it's gonna be a driver's race.

[lil_dcb7]

I hate to poke holes in your theory, but there's no way the 240 will put 150 to the rear wheels. For that to happen, the car would have to have about 173 hp stock. (assuming a 15% drivetrain loss...It might be slightly more or less with RWD, I'm using 15% since I know that's about what a FWD is, I forget for RWD) The car only has 155 hp stock (assuming its the SE), so according to your calculation, the CAI adds 18 hp? Figure the CAI adds even 5 hp (assuming a good one, etc, etc) to the wheels...you're looking at roughly 138 whp.

Again...your Supra has 200 hp crank...so figure you're putting around 170 hp to the wheels.

So right now the 240sx has a power/weight of 0.0484 At stock HP (155 crank), you're looking at a power/weight of 0.0462

The Supra has a power/weight of 0.0469

Now other elements such as torque/traction/driver ability comes into consideration.

If its not a straight line, you have to add into the equation where the powerband is, the suspension set, etc, etc. There are far too many variables...but basically in a straight line, I'd actually think the 240 might pull, but it's gonna be a driver's race.

Eh eaah HUH?!

Ok
, so are you saying that, if we're both equally matched drivers (which we are much more than likely) I'd win? I know for a fact, the 240 would have me at a stop, but at a roll? Im not good in math or predictions....

[Laguna7]

Just Race Already...

[sj960]

Just Race Already...

I second that

[ACC0RD22]

I hate to poke holes in your theory, but there's no way the 240 will put 150 to the rear wheels. For that to happen, the car would have to have about 173 hp stock. (assuming a 15% drivetrain loss...It might be slightly more or less with RWD, I'm using 15% since I know that's about what a FWD is, I forget for RWD) The car only has 155 hp stock (assuming its the SE), so according to your calculation, the CAI adds 18 hp? Figure the CAI adds even 5 hp (assuming a good one, etc, etc) to the wheels...you're looking at roughly 138 whp.

Again...your Supra has 200 hp crank...so figure you're putting around 170 hp to the wheels.

So right now the 240sx has a power/weight of 0.0484 At stock HP (155 crank), you're looking at a power/weight of 0.0462

The Supra has a power/weight of 0.0469

Now other elements such as torque/traction/driver ability comes into consideration.

If its not a straight line, you have to add into the equation where the powerband is, the suspension set, etc, etc. There are far too many variables...but basically in a straight line, I'd actually think the 240 might pull, but it's gonna be a driver's race.

if its an s13 (which it is) I think it only had 135 . . . the s14 got the 155 hp engine right? or did they just start dropping in the 155 hp DOHC engine in the s13 . . . i mean i know the later model s13's had DOHC KA's . . . but were they 155 hp?

[KA RPS13]

Ya the 91 and up SE models had 155 horse.