I hate our country sometimes

[shimoto]

4. Get rid of some of this fast food, holy shit are we getting fat, and it's not even just being fat, we're getting cholestorol problems like you wouldn't fukin believe! Who wants to die @ 50?!


it's all about money man. the fatter they make us, the more we eat, the more $$$ we spend on food (to make us satisfied) and drugs (to "attempt" to lose weight). it's a never ending cycle. all the gov't and FDA wants is to get our money quick before we die. and by making us eat more, that is exactly what they are doing. fucked up huh? many drugs claim they help someone lose weight, but in the end i think they are just giving money to the gov't. the only true weight loss is to eat "healthy" and excercise regularly. money does not equal weight loss

[PakaloloHonda]

Its the SAME here ... as there evol90accord...

Florida is *a right to work state* as well ..

A Hui Hou !!!
Tomi

[evol90accord]

As they say: "Good labor is never cheap, and cheap labor is never good."

[evol90accord]

Its the SAME here ... as there evol90accord...

Florida is *a right to work state* as well ..

A Hui Hou !!!
Tomi

I apologize to you then, I hoped only our state was ignorant enough to embrace that horseshit law. I have family in FL and they never mentioned it. It might not have effected yall to much, maybe cuz all your illegals are in the south part of FL busy killing and mugging tourists (go Haitians!)

Makes me feel like playing Vice City.

[PakaloloHonda]

no need for the apology evol90accord ...

I'm sure *other* states will catch on soon .. and totally fuck everyone up the ass ...

I wasn't paid too bad either.. (I worked the crane afterall) but ........
To see a Guatemalan, screaming at a Mexican, who's screamin at a Cuban .. because NONE
of them can figure anything out .. is simply better then fawkin Saturday Nite Live ..

And they wanted me to wear a fawkin hard hat ... hahahahahaha .. yeah rite .. whats that for?
To scrape up my remains??? .. fawkin buffons .. all of um

A Hui Hou !!!
Tomi

[evol90accord]

Off of labor gripes, heres another wild idea:

If you need money to put towards another program, say education, why not cut it from some of the "fat" that we don't need in our government? The politicians in the Senate and House of Reps. WTF do we need those guys for anymore anyway? Hear me out...

In today's day and age with computers, the internet, and e-commerce being the norm, why not just have direct voting on bills via the internet? Why have all these politicians sitting on their asses all day *paying themselves whatever they want* to vote the way they *think* we want them too (which actually translates to which lobbyist gives the largest contribution to their "campaign" fund)???

I bring this up all the time, and everyday I hear reasons against it, the two biggest being:

1) security. Please... we're talking about the GOVERNMENT. These guys play war games simulating terrorist cyber-attacks on themselves all the time, trust me they're secure. Christ, over a million transactions happen everyday over PayPal and eBay, and they don't seem to have a problem!

2) not everyone has a computer. Yeah, but they have friends that have 2 or 3 right next door. Or how about e-cafes? or here's something that stupid people have obviously forgotten about: LIBRARIES!!! Besides, even if some people absolutely CANT vote, its not a whole lot different from what they got now, is it?

Seriously, I think we should have direct representation by online voting. You'll certainly get a better turnout than you do with elections, people don't have to go anywhere or stand in line! Put the bills in lamens terms minus the stupid loopholes that always seem to exist, and we can vote on em just as well as any fat, self employed Senator.

[PakaloloHonda]

Ever look up what .. *The politicians in the Senate and House of Reps* are gonna make
when they *retire* ????

Dont wanna *ruin* your day or anything .. but .. They're setting themselves UP dudes ...
And .. its *grandfathered* in .. so .. aint NOTHING *we* can do about it nowwww..

Yeah .. I served my *country*.. worked my WHOLE life .. (self employed for most of it)
Wuddya think I get, when I retire ???

And yeah .. we *train* alright .. but guess what? We're not even CLOSE to winning ANYthing
with those fawkin rats over there .. Look at Nam .. and all the underground tunnels...
They have shit we haven't even HEARD of where we're fighting now ... and we're *prepared*??? NOT!
Train all we want .. we'll never win this shit ..

What gets ME is ... they can take a godamned photograph from fawkin space, and show you
what *name brand ball* I'm hittin on the golf course .. and you mean to tell me ..
we couldn't find Sadam ??? Yeah .. ok ..

We got our asses HANDED to us us in Nam ... and the whole world took notice ..
No one fears the all mighty Americans anymore .. I say bomb um all, and let God sort um out.

A Hui Hou !!!
Tomi

[bracersi]

I totally agree with your idea. I think it would be a great way to figure alot of shit out. Unfortunately not even voting can save our country now. We have reached the point where private corporations run our country. Who do you think takes care of the voting now, and who would take care of voting over the internet? Private corporations. 2000 election and 2004 election were great examples of how voting has become a joke in this country. Some votes being thrown out, computers ran on programs to switch votes on purpose. Voting booths everywhere getting shut down due to terrorist scares (fuckin joke). Who actually knows who wins these things now days. So many people are fucking with the raw data that you might as well just buy the counting companies if you want to win. Even the people who run the counts of votes are throwing in their own agenda.

But yeah I agree with you, get rid of politicians! Actually even better get rid of parties. Why should people have to be related to a political party. If someone where to vote on actually who the person is and what they have done, other then the fact that they are from a certain party, it might actually make things better. Judging someone from what party they are is like judging someone from the color of their skin. Yeah there is a general attitude from certain ethnic groups, but it is so diverse now days that to be black or white dosnt distinguish anything. Same goes with politics. The diversity in thinking for republican and democrat is so wide that the labels and stereotypes don't fit anymore. We need to get rid of parties so the government will quit segregating themselves by parties.

thats my 10 cents

[PakaloloHonda]

I coudn't have said it any better bracersi .. (matter a fact I was trying to)

But, as we speak .. THIS is whats goin on ....
http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/arti...00010000000001

A Hui Hou !!!
Tomi

[Sho Nuff]

Damn where do i start,

I swear to God .. *we* still talk about the *yankee's* as if it was still fawking 200 years ago ..
People .. here's a clue .. the fawkin battle is over .. ok? Get your godamned fawking rebel flags
off your damn front license plates .. and that freakin pit bull you ride around with on your front seat,
is nothing but a godamned upholstery stain with bad breath ..

I just got back from myrtle beach, where i saw two jeeps driving around waving huge confederate flags all over the vehicles. Even in the shops they sold stupid license plates and signs that show complete ignorance.



As far as education goes, we will learn whatever the gov tells the states to teach us. We will always only receive "our" side of history, "our" reasons, and "our" beliefs. The gov is very slick and very smart. They no exactly what they are doing so they can leech off of our incomes and purchases. "Why ban alcohol when we can bring it back and tax the hell out of them." "Why ban cigarettes due to it "killing" our people when we can make so much money off of their desire for them". "Why (cure / release the cure) for aids when we can make so much money off of the research."

They wouldnt legalize marijana because they are not able to control what can be grown in ones backyward.

The gov is very sneeky and jepordize a lot of americans health and capitolizes everyones addictions just so they can make some money. Every single last thing they do is done for a reason.

[HenRoc]

It's always easier to say waht should be done, after the problem has developed. So, I'm not going tos ay what I would have done different, just what I would do now.

1. Liberate Taiwan, fuck china, they piss the shit out of me still being communist, who the F do they think they are.


8. *sacrastic entry* eliminate all racist bitches and stick them on the island of guam, I figure these assholes should be life mates, that way they keep their shit contained, and maybe work it out...right...

China will be pissed yes but hey they still make our shoes and other miscellanous items and coming to a dealer near you....China is gonna be importing their own brand of vehicles soon.

Guam...do you know thats a US Territory with the biggest air base outside the continental US? Yeah anways..nah forget those fuckers....burn em thats what I say.

Oh yeah I lived in Guam so they would enjoy a year round vacation in the warm sun while we freeze our asses off in the winter time believe me..I loved every minute living there.

[evol90accord]

We make some great point in discussions like this, and I believe its proof that there are enough intelligent people in the US that is thinking right now *enough is enough*... but they won't do a thing about it. We empower these assholes in office and then sit back and bitch that they're not doing the job right. Fuckin get in there and show em how its DONE then! "We the People" are now "We the lazy" and its just so sad I don't even know where to begin trying to motivate people. I actually had friends who were up in arms over this Bush/Iraq thing, but didn't make it to the polls in 2004!

At what point are we going to be like our founding fathers and just say "Fuck THIS" and make what we want? We're getting to the point where we were with England in the 1700's with taxation without representation and all this shit, but no one is ready to do a thing about it. Your lucky if you see a march in the streets anymore!

Makes you kind of understand why there are so many "insurgents" (Freedom Fighters if your Iraqi) in Iraq. They're fighting for a free Iraq (free from US puppet govt which is far more brutal than our own... look at Africa), and I think we should let em have it. Saddam supporters my ass, most of em just want power for their own agenda, not Saddams. Thats just the media telling you what you need to hear...

[PakaloloHonda]

Sho Nuff .. Can you say .. *American Medical Association*?

Good God .. I come from a *medicinal* family .. When they finally *release* the cure for AIDS,
They'll say it took so long for R&D, and blah blah blah .. and thats the reason why
it'll cost so much, and only be available to either the rich, the famous, the politicians,
and all a their families ...Because in 25 years .. the disease wil be SO widespread,
the'll have to release it ..

The AMA is one of the most (if not *the* most IMHO) influential powerhouses that this Nation knows ...
Wanna talk *sneaky* and *manipulative* .. They have alotta *control*.

edit Oiii .. *medicinal* .. that was ehh, i'll leave it in for shits and giggles.. you know i meant *medical*

A Hui Hou !!!
Tomi

[bracersi]

We make some great point in discussions like this, and I believe its proof that there are enough intelligent people in the US that is thinking right now *enough is enough*... but they won't do a thing about it. We empower these assholes in office and then sit back and bitch that they're not doing the job right. Fuckin get in there and show em how its DONE then! "We the People" are now "We the lazy" and its just so sad I don't even know where to begin trying to motivate people. I actually had friends who were up in arms over this Bush/Iraq thing, but didn't make it to the polls in 2004!

At what point are we going to be like our founding fathers and just say "Fuck THIS" and make what we want? We're getting to the point where we were with England in the 1700's with taxation without representation and all this shit, but no one is ready to do a thing about it. Your lucky if you see a march in the streets anymore!

Makes you kind of understand why there are so many "insurgents" (Freedom Fighters if your Iraqi) in Iraq. They're fighting for a free Iraq (free from US puppet govt which is far more brutal than our own... look at Africa), and I think we should let em have it. Saddam supporters my ass, most of em just want power for their own agenda, not Saddams. Thats just the media telling you what you need to hear...

again I refer back to one of fizzbob's oh so wonderfully put quotes in response to all that. I did vote though.

this statement is just stupid:

if you didn't vote, don't bitch

you know why?
i didn't vote but i will bitch, because my options for president were both horrible options.......you can say "well get someone else in there, blah blah" but realisitcally, i don't have tens of millions to help another guy get his foot in the door......that's what it would take......money......there is a reason this cycle is just that, a cycle........those with money make money, keep money and think the same way year in and out.......they want what's best for them financially, not what's best for the future of america.......we are a flawed design....you can't give anyone more power than the rest.......those with that power can't help but abuse it......it's not equal.....never will be....america is doomed.....won't make it another 100 years.....

the guys who fight and believe that what they're doing is right, congrats, they're doing their job and probably doing it well, but they aren't in charge of anything....they don't make decisions.....they wouldn't be there if they had real options.....they're usually there because they wanna travel, want a future that is positive, etc.......if they can have all those benefits and not fight, then i bet 99% of them would choose to not go to war......that 1% that wants to fight just has problems.....

people could get along if power and money weren't so corrupting.....but it is

our country isn't in good shape....numbers prove that, general unrest proves that, this thread proves that........yes we have it better than most STILL, but so what.......is that all we want, to be better than the rest but not as good as we can be? we had the platform to be a legendary country, but in 5000 years, guess what, they'll talk about rome for a few chapters but will only talk about us for a few paragraphs.....we wasted our chance to change the world......we think forcing change is the way to do it.......isn't that why we became a country anyway? only sadists like to be forced

[evol90accord]

Thats what I'm talking about. Fizzbob's entire post was nothing but a cry of apathy... I'll bitch but won't do a thing about it because there's nothing I can do so I might as well give up now. Defeated from the very beginning...

Thomas Jefferson even wrote that he hoped this government would change radically every 50 years or so, both because the influx of new ideas and ways, and more importantly to prevent corruption. This government started heading south the day it was born, but we try to patch the holes and move on and make bigger and better stuff, but lets face it: we're building on an already crumbling foundation. Rome wasn't built in a day, and also didn't last forever, so why model another government based on it?

We need some massive changes, I'm just asking if anyone else has ideas. Personally I think eliminating more people in "power" is the first step. There needs to be a direct link from what I want to what I get, and majority rules. If 68% vote to get the fuck out of Iraq, then I want it done the next goddamn day. The people have spoken, make it so. No deliberation, no getting around to it, just do it dammit! Get it done!

Why the extra steps in this process now that we have this technology? I can understand the way it was before: elect an individual to represent the masses because there was no way that many people could be heard. Now we can.