So this morning around 2am I was having trouble sleeping and made the mistake of opening the notebook onto eBay; which as you know is about as wise as hitting on girls in a dim lit place, going grocery shopping while hungry or walking with a kid down the candy/cereal isle and well I ended up bidding $130 on a brand new set of Tein S springs that had 5 days left on the auction, my surprise when I woke up at 630am to an email stating my bid was accepted. Does anybody here have those springs mated to koni str? Or just plainly how are the springs themselves? I honestly had no plans of purchasing springs but I am an honorable guy and if I bid/offered I have to buy.
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The springs themselves are pretty good, but they're going to blow those Konis.
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I guess I will wait and step up to the yellow koni or kyb agx. Maybe I should just go full Tein setup if I don't just end up selling them.Originally posted by F22Chris View Post[url=https://flic.kr/p/2hFNC7Z]Comment
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Hope theyre not counterfeit, I avoided that brand due to the saturation of fakes floating around, real ones commanded a higher price but they all seemed suspect with the effort put in to look legit. 
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X2 on the counterfeit concern. Tein is well known for being the victim of eBay counterfeiters.
Agx won't last with them either. They're only good for a max on 1.5". Yellows are your best option. Wait until spring. They tend to go on sale. You can get them for under $500 shipped, I believe.
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The company I bought them from seem to be a respectable speed shop in FL. I guess I have to wait until they are here and go thru them and go from there.Originally posted by illinois_erik View PostHope theyre not counterfeit, I avoided that brand due to the saturation of fakes floating around, real ones commanded a higher price but they all seemed suspect with the effort put in to look legit. [url=https://flic.kr/p/2hFNC7Z]Comment
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neuspeedsport springs and koni yellow adjustables. Why not go with raceland I went with those on my civic and I dont have a problem with them at all.Comment
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Raceland is one of the absolute worst companies out there. There are bad suspension companies... and then there is Raceland. If the 17 year old burnout down the street from you decided to start manufacturing suspension products in his mom's basement, it would probably be of similar quality to Raceland products. They use very low grade metals, they have absolutely no engineering behind their products, and they offer no quality control whatsoever. Their products are a generic design, copied from existing products, and adapted to fit whatever vehicle they can find. Basically, "if it fits, it works" is their mentality. No concern for consistent spring rate, no concern for shock valving... it's so bad, it's actually dangerous.
Stick to suspension components made by ACTUAL suspension companies. Companies that engineer, manufacture, test, and stand by their products. Companies with verifiable history in the automotive and motorsport world. Preferably, companies that make OEM parts as well as performance parts. Companies like Koni, H&R, KYB, Vogtland, Tokico, Eibach, Bilstein, Tein, KW... those companies have legitimate manufacturing pedigrees. Many of them make OEM components, and many of them supply high-end racing components to professional teams (because of their quality, not because they offered a deal as part of a sponsorship.) Those are just a few off the top of my head. I'm sure there are plenty more that are also true quality.
Granted, not all of those brands make things that are good for every situation. KYB makes fantastic products, but they don't offer anything for the CB that will be compatible with anything but VERY mild lowering springs. Anything that goes lower than 1.5" from the stock ride height will exceed the limits of any KYB shock available to us.
When it comes to suspension, it's important to know what you're buying. Buy parts that are compatible with each other, and buy parts that are compatible with your intended use... basically, you don't need a full race suspension for a car that is going to be driven on the street 99% of the time. It will actually be more dangerous, and handle worse over rough roads, than a softer street-oriented suspension setup. Finally, learn about the brands you are buying. If a brand doesn't tell you where and how their products are made, assume there's a reason that information was left out. Any company worth a damn will be happy to tell you these things. Don't fall for "assembled in the US", either... that means they're made in some supersecret Chinese factory and just put together here. Better, maybe... but not good. Buy quality. Your life rides on that stuff.
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#suspension rants
You'd think they'd get it by now.Comment
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You'd think I'd have it ready to cut and paste by now, too... yet I always type it out each and every time!
Sparkle has been in this game almost exactly as long as I have. We both got screwed on our H22 swaps at the same time, found this site, and fixed our own problems in parallel. He of all people should know this stuff by now! (he does know a hell of a lot about most things CB7...)
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So i guess Raceland would probably be on the same level as the Dropzone kit i had on my car right before i joined this site, it single handed made me hate lowered cars and i always swore i would not make the same mistake; until my early morning shopping mistake.Originally posted by deevergote View PostYou'd think I'd have it ready to cut and paste by now, too... yet I always type it out each and every time!
Sparkle has been in this game almost exactly as long as I have. We both got screwed on our H22 swaps at the same time, found this site, and fixed our own problems in parallel. He of all people should know this stuff by now! (he does know a hell of a lot about most things CB7...)[url=https://flic.kr/p/2hFNC7Z]Comment
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[QUOTE=deevergote;3264342]Raceland is one of the absolute worst companies out there. There are bad suspension companies... and then there is Raceland. If the 17 year old burnout down the street from you decided to start manufacturing suspension products in his mom's basement, it would probably be of similar quality to Raceland products. They use very low grade metals, they have absolutely no engineering behind their products, and they offer no quality control whatsoever. Their products are a generic design, copied from existing products, and adapted to fit whatever vehicle they can find. Basically, "if it fits, it works" is their mentality. No concern for consistent spring rate, no concern for shock valving... it's so bad, it's actually dangerous.
So i guess Raceland would probably be on the same level as the Dropzone kit i had on my car right before i joined this site, it single handed made me hate lowered cars and i always swore i would not make the same mistake; until my early morning shopping mistake.[url=https://flic.kr/p/2hFNC7Z]Comment
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Yessir. Dropzone is another total garbage brand. I was dumb enough to trust a Dropzone camber kit years ago. I'm lucky I didn't crash when it broke.
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I actually at one point said on here that they werent that bad, a little over a year later i hammered that pos out of my car of course by then i had ALOT of replacing to do on my suspension due to the wear and tear caused by those things.Originally posted by deevergote View Post[url=https://flic.kr/p/2hFNC7Z]Comment
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I should probably post this in the suspension forum, but it will get lost. AGX is rated at 1.5", but they're also known as drop killers. I would love to compare a set of AGX to a set of Koni Yellows to figure out where the perches for the springs are actually mounted. I'm wondering if the perches are higher, hence the drop killer.Originally posted by deevergote View Post
I've seen photos of cars with my old springs (Neuspeed Sport) that were significantly lower than me if they had Tokicos or Konis. One of the ways I got lift in my Tacoma was because the shocks had adjustable perches.Comment
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