I know this has the potential to become a hairy discussion, so I'm going to keep an eye on it. Please keep it civil. I won't ban anyone unless things get REALLY out of hand, so feel free to voice your opinion... just try not to attack anyone who thinks differently. Argue your point civilly, or leave the discussion.
Anyway, I recently (rather unwisely) participated on a Facebook discussion with a few outspoken feminists on this matter... and it wasn't pretty. Seeing as the discussion pretty much ended with me being told to "fuck off", I figured I'd seek intelligent debate elsewhere!
Now, first of all, I want to make it clear that I think the majority of what the Men's Rights Movement stands for is utter bullshit. Sounds like a bunch of dudes that got burned by women and decided to become activists. For the most part, they're a bunch of whiny asshats.
However, there's one thing that they say that I do agree with... partially, at least.
Here's a picture that was widely circulated. Billboards, posters, magazines, etc...
While the MRM seems to believe that women make false rape claims on a regular basis (which, according to studies, is highly unlikely), it IS still an issue. That was the point I was arguing in my previous discussion.
My point is that I feel men should be very aware of the possibility of a false rape claim, and be wary of putting themselves in a situation for one to be made.
If I were to have consensual sex with a woman tonight, and tomorrow she decides that she regrets that decision, she could claim that I raped her. Witnesses could say that we were together. A medical examination could prove that she had intercourse, potentially even proving that she had intercourse with me. My only defense would be my word. Nothing else. That is an incredibly terrifying concept. It may not be likely, and even if the claim were to be taken seriously and pursued, there's a good chance that I wouldn't get convicted (studies have been done, showing a wide range of results... but many that I have read show that a significant amount of rape cases do not result in conviction.) Still, even a claim that didn't lead to conviction could do serious harm to my reputation.
(also, for the record, I'm using myself in the example... I am not in this situation!
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Anyway, I'm just curious to hear some opinions on the matter. I know this is a male-dominated forum, so the discussion is likely to go very differently than it did with my discussion with people that had strong feminist leanings. I would like to hear the opinions of the ladies, if they would care to share (I know LadyG is always a good one for intelligent debate, without taking it to the "fuck off" point! )
Anyway, I recently (rather unwisely) participated on a Facebook discussion with a few outspoken feminists on this matter... and it wasn't pretty. Seeing as the discussion pretty much ended with me being told to "fuck off", I figured I'd seek intelligent debate elsewhere!
Now, first of all, I want to make it clear that I think the majority of what the Men's Rights Movement stands for is utter bullshit. Sounds like a bunch of dudes that got burned by women and decided to become activists. For the most part, they're a bunch of whiny asshats.
However, there's one thing that they say that I do agree with... partially, at least.
Here's a picture that was widely circulated. Billboards, posters, magazines, etc...
While the MRM seems to believe that women make false rape claims on a regular basis (which, according to studies, is highly unlikely), it IS still an issue. That was the point I was arguing in my previous discussion.
My point is that I feel men should be very aware of the possibility of a false rape claim, and be wary of putting themselves in a situation for one to be made.
If I were to have consensual sex with a woman tonight, and tomorrow she decides that she regrets that decision, she could claim that I raped her. Witnesses could say that we were together. A medical examination could prove that she had intercourse, potentially even proving that she had intercourse with me. My only defense would be my word. Nothing else. That is an incredibly terrifying concept. It may not be likely, and even if the claim were to be taken seriously and pursued, there's a good chance that I wouldn't get convicted (studies have been done, showing a wide range of results... but many that I have read show that a significant amount of rape cases do not result in conviction.) Still, even a claim that didn't lead to conviction could do serious harm to my reputation.
(also, for the record, I'm using myself in the example... I am not in this situation!
)Anyway, I'm just curious to hear some opinions on the matter. I know this is a male-dominated forum, so the discussion is likely to go very differently than it did with my discussion with people that had strong feminist leanings. I would like to hear the opinions of the ladies, if they would care to share (I know LadyG is always a good one for intelligent debate, without taking it to the "fuck off" point!
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. 2 years of felony probation and then the charges were dropped. Did some of my own research afterwards and turns out she did the same thing to a few other guys. 
2k of the 11k I spent went straight to her for "damages" and in the other case she had a similar outcome. Basically a ridiculously expensive hooker. Oh well, I'm doing great now. All charges dropped and I have an awesome job, but I could otherwise be spending a rider in Cottonwood.
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