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    #91
    Originally posted by wildBill83 View Post
    First off, they weren't a gang or a club. The ones who organized the ride are on stuntlife and the stunters were only a small percentage of the group.

    Let's take a look at this from a different perspective, let's say a bunch of CB7 owners were out on a cruise and they were driving in a close slow moving group. An impatient driver in a Range Rover then tries to get aggressive and moves into the middle of the group, rear ending a CB7. Would the group not get upset that one of those driving with them just got rammed, then tried to flee the scene hitting more CB7s? Yes after that point everything was excessive. The driver didn't have to run over more bikes, all he had to do was wait for the police to arrive to an accident scene. Instead he tried to flee running over more bikes and enraging more bike riders who have seen too many cars run over their brethren. They then acted violently toward what they saw as violence pointed toward them. Again, I'm not condoning it but just trying to point out that both sides were in the wrong.

    Then this comment about motorcycle riders being equivalent to the scum of the Earth with no life ambitions just poked me the wrong way. I know plenty of motorcycle riders who are and aspire to be more than a common street cop and I know a few cops who are stunt riders. To say they had nothing to lose is just ignorant. They all have families and they all have life ambitions and some are even working to achieve them. Owning a motorcycle is not the equivalent of being on a low run of society. I'm an engineer, and I stunt ride. I'm proud I have more to lose than you assume.

    Bottom line, both sides are fucked up for doing what they did. Would I be emotional enough to be aggressive towards the driver of the cage if I were in that situation? Maybe, depending on the way things unfolded with my brethren.

    A car is not a weapon, the driver clearly used it as one before the riders were aggressive towards him. I have been in situations like this before and they are unpleasant. Difference is that I was in a smaller group and the driver was packing heat. He did pull the gun on us, but before hand he tried to run my crew off the road. We called the cops after chasing him down and at gun point and he was ticketed for his actions. He tried the "I was scared for my life" bit, but really all that was happening was us stopping him from fleeing the scene of the crime after he hit a friend of mine.

    Open your eyes and see the whole damned situation, not only the bikers are to blame here. The driver of the Range Rover clearly asked for this treatment. They are all to blame, bikers and drivers alike.
    1. Yes, they actually are being considered a gang, as many of the riders are part of clubs or gangs.

    2. If a bunch of cb7 owners were in this situation, they wouldn't be driving on sidewalks, into oncoming traffic, running redlights, illegally splitting lanes, driving with no license or insurance, and punching other cars that are driving too slow. Your argument does not hold here.

    3. So brake checking and then approaching the vehicle while your buddies bang on the windows and slash the tires isn't aggressive?! All of that happened BEFORE the RR driver ran them over. Furthermore, they were causing problems throughout the city before the RR driver was involved (as mentioned previous to and after this paragraphy) You are trying to relate your situation to the one in NY, and they are completely different. You are comparing apples to oranges and saying its ok.

    Do you really think it was ok for these guys to be riding with no licenses and insurance (some of them), running redlights, driving into oncoming traffic, illegal turns, aggressive behavior towards other drivers (they banged and punched on the windows of a prius who was going too slow for them), they were speeding, splitting lanes (illegal in MOST states), tailgating, felony reckless driver, public endangerment, obstructing traffic, blah blah blah. Their crimes go on... but I won't.

    End of story. They are at fault. That is why the ones who have been caught are all being charged with something. Most are getting felony charges. The RR driver is not being charged for anything.

    You can't argue facts.
    Last edited by oni_cb7; 10-14-2013, 03:01 PM.

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