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    #46
    Germany is relatively on-par with the US, Canada, and many other countries that are relatively financially secure (debt aside, Americans still have money to spend on luxuries), educated, peaceful, and, well... civilized.

    German engineering is known for its precision, yes. However, the overall quality of it can be a matter of opinion. I don't know many people on here that will claim that they admire VW's reliability over the last 15-20 years... I don't know many people that would risk buying an older Mercedes Benz for fear of major electrical problems. BMWs are fantastic cars, for the most part (there are some models that aren't, but overall...) but that's the company, not the country of Germany itself.

    Women? That's a matter of opinion. I don't know if any country can be credited for having more attractive people than others. The biggest factor is probably diet and hygiene, over anything else. A person in a country like Germany, or Sweden, or France, or Spain, or the US, or Canada... will most likely be more attractive because they are well nourished, and they still have all their teeth! That is, unless they are obese (and MY impression of German women, based only on stereotypes that I do not hold as fact, is that they are on the hefty side...)

    Beer? Again, opinion. Some of the origins of common brewing techniques did originate in Germany, and that general area... but that does not necessarily mean that German beer is superior. I'm a big fan of beer, and I'll honestly say that German beer is not among my favorites. I think American beer is the best (and I don't mean Bud, Miller, Coors, etc... those are shite.)


    Geoff, all of your arguments for Germany could be made for Japan as well, depending solely on the opinion of the person making the argument. Cars, women, ok maybe not beer (but the Japanese DO make the best sake! and that is actually more closely related to beer than wine.)

    The American military is still the most powerful, unless China decides to arm their bazillions of citizens. The US is a very large country that has spent a good deal of money developing their army over the past 100 years at least. The US military has been active in one way or another CONSTANTLY, even when not at war. With all the worldwide bases and "territories" we have, we might as well be Imperial England! No single country could come close to defeating the US military. Any that have the technology don't have the numbers.
    Ralph, I do agree that the Israeli military has an INSANE level of training, though. I don't know if the US would have too much difficulty crushing them if it really came down to it, but I feel they'd put up a fight that is easily on par with a military force twice their size from many other countries.



    If this discussion remains civil, it may continue. Just please don't attack one another. Praising the Germans, even admiring what they accomplished in WWII (not the atrocities, of course, but the military feats, technological developments, etc...) is NOT an attack against anyone, and should not be taken that way.






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      #47
      The Israeli army has the hottest women period.
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        #48
        women + krav maga = hot. But only if you're well versed in the phrase "you're right, honey!"






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          #49
          Originally posted by deevergote View Post
          women + krav maga = hot. But only if you're well versed in the phrase "you're right, honey!"
          I would let them win every time too!
          H22 Prelude VTEC 92-96 200 161 10.6:1 87 90 DOHC VTEC 2157 JDM

          190.3whp 155 wtq - with bolt ons, and a dc header

          ET=14.457 @ 94mph w/ 2.173 60Fter

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            #50
            Originally posted by phatdoughnut View Post
            I would let them win every time too!
            I'd be open to letting a hot Finnish female soldier beat me up if she looked like this





            or like this

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              #51

              I know I chimed in a little late, but I just saw and read the first page. Immediately thought of this.
              Last edited by DrLove'sKuDang; 04-02-2012, 07:12 PM.

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                #52
                Originally posted by BurtonRiderT6 View Post
                Not to toot the horn but the USA has the most advanced military on this planet. Be sure you're on the right side if anythings to happen.
                Oh now, let's not forget about them pesky ole Russians .. SUKHOI 47 anyone?
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRDqz...eature=related

                Originally posted by deevergote View Post
                The American military is still the most powerful, unless China decides to arm their bazillions of citizens.
                ehhh yeah, let's not piss them off either ..
                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdWRF4dUMIM&feature=fvsr




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                  #53
                  Originally posted by Ralphie View Post
                  I have 0 doubt that Israel would give the US military a run for it's money, if it ever came down to it, ESPECIALLY if the fight was on Israeli turf.
                  Well Ralphie it's always harder on someone else's turf, their resources are closer and they know the lay of the land. Two reasons we have never had a war on our turf, one is what I stated above and the other is we have the right to bear arms. No one wants to invade a place where civilians are also a big threat.

                  Deev, I'd be careful I hear some of those women that are hot are not so hot once they put their arms over their heads. Better bring a Gillette. I also can't believe you left Brazil out of the women category.

                  I will say Germany is a country I will be visiting within the next 10 years. It's on the list.

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                    #54
                    i surely hope no one took my posts as an argument as to why any race or nationality is superior...i think we are all equals but love a good debate with someone as idiotic and closed-minded as the op.
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                      #55
                      Originally posted by Ralphie View Post
                      I have 0 doubt that Israel would give the US military a run for it's money, if it ever came down to it, ESPECIALLY if the fight was on Israeli turf.
                      Maybe I missed the point.. But the one main factor in how Israel has a powerful military is the US.. Israel is the number one recipient of US aid by far (mostly military)

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by ChIoVnIdCa View Post
                        Maybe I missed the point.. But the one main factor in how Israel has a powerful military is the US.. Israel is the number one recipient of US aid by far (mostly military)
                        Yes Israel AND Egypt both receive plenty of US aid.

                        Do you think the Egyptian army poses much of a threat?

                        You have a good point but it is totally separate from my point.

                        In that context, then thanks to the US, they are where they are now.

                        Although, if it weren't for the constant threat of war from their neighboring countries, then they probably would not be as strong as they are today(regardless of US Aid)

                        We have it pretty good here in the US.

                        It is hard to imagine what it is like when you have never left the US.

                        We take everything for granted because Canada and Mexico are not shelling us daily.

                        Try to imagine what that would be like if they were bombing our coasts daily and sending people in to attack our citizens with bombs and forklifts etc.

                        also our military is a volunteer one.

                        It works good for our country and has obv done good since the end of the draft.

                        Now when you go to a country like Israel and submerse yourself in the population and meet people between the ages of 18-25 who have either served or are serving(since its mandatory) you quickly realize that the majority of people are totally aware of their surroundings and are much better equipped to handle most situations without much help, unlike here where we have people in lala land who are to caught up with jayz babys name etc.

                        Just a different way of living....i am not saying it is better....but because of their reality, it has made them a stronger country and they decided as a country that they will never give up that land again and will fight till every soul is killed for it.

                        So i don't really see where us aid helps...besides armament which is what most of it goes to.


                        Let me tell a quick story.

                        I read the other day about how Israel warned the US about a Nuclear facility somewhere in the middle east(not sure where)

                        Israel was concerned that they were using it as a front to make weapons that would be used against them(much like Iran is now)

                        The US passed on the chance to investigate and basically blew them off.

                        Well fast foward a few years and the decide maybe they should investigate.....problem is is that the Israeli air force already blew it sky high.

                        The US didn't even know...how sad is that.

                        Israel said "ok....you don't want to back us....fuck it will do it ourselves"

                        And basically did.

                        Much like most of what they do.


                        Anyway this is all WAY OT from the OP.
                        Last edited by Ralphie; 04-03-2012, 02:43 PM.

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by Ralphie View Post
                          Anyway this is all WAY OT from the OP.
                          Yea but this is a lot more interesting than what the OP was.

                          I've left the country quite a few times. I take a cruise every year and it's really sad to see the economy of these Caribbean Countries.

                          I've been to: Bahama's, Jamaica, Honduras, Costa Maya and Cozumel in Mexico, Belize, and Grand Cayman. Most of these places have beggars on every corner, some with children begging as well. Grand Cayman was an exception, great economy, super friendly citizens, and sweet cars (older skylines everywhere and I did see a nice blue R34). None of these countries have to worry about war though. Just mother nature.

                          Where do you think any of these countries in Europe would be if the US never aided them?

                          I will say we are not liked by many Europeans based on my experiences with them on Xbox LIVE. Always seems to be "Wreck the American Day" when I would play GRID or any other racing game.

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by Ralphie View Post
                            Yes Israel AND Egypt both receive plenty of US aid.

                            Do you think the Egyptian army poses much of a threat?

                            You have a good point but it is totally separate from my point.

                            In that context, then thanks to the US, they are where they are now.

                            Although, if it weren't for the constant threat of war from their neighboring countries, then they probably would not be as strong as they are today(regardless of US Aid)

                            We have it pretty good here in the US.

                            It is hard to imagine what it is like when you have never left the US.

                            We take everything for granted because Canada and Mexico are not shelling us daily.

                            Try to imagine what that would be like if they were bombing our coasts daily and sending people in to attack our citizens with bombs and forklifts etc.

                            also our military is a volunteer one.

                            It works good for our country and has obv done good since the end of the draft.

                            Now when you go to a country like Israel and submerse yourself in the population and meet people between the ages of 18-25 who have either served or are serving(since its mandatory) you quickly realize that the majority of people are totally aware of their surroundings and are much better equipped to handle most situations without much help, unlike here where we have people in lala land who are to caught up with jayz babys name etc.

                            Just a different way of living....i am not saying it is better....but because of their reality, it has made them a stronger country and they decided as a country that they will never give up that land again and will fight till every soul is killed for it.

                            So i don't really see where us aid helps...besides armament which is what most of it goes to.


                            Let me tell a quick story.

                            I read the other day about how Israel warned the US about a Nuclear facility somewhere in the middle east(not sure where)

                            Israel was concerned that they were using it as a front to make weapons that would be used against them(much like Iran is now)

                            The US passed on the chance to investigate and basically blew them off.

                            Well fast foward a few years and the decide maybe they should investigate.....problem is is that the Israeli air force already blew it sky high.

                            The US didn't even know...how sad is that.

                            Israel said "ok....you don't want to back us....fuck it will do it ourselves"

                            And basically did.

                            Much like most of what they do.


                            Anyway this is all WAY OT from the OP.

                            I never said it was bad to provide military aid to Israel. They are ALMOST an extension of the US military in a hostile region.. Its good for the US to have presence through Israel.

                            Just curious.. What is your personal connection to Israel? OT but just interested if you don't mind.

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                              #59
                              One saying i like to live by is "it's all pink inside".

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by BurtonRiderT6 View Post
                                Yea but this is a lot more interesting than what the OP was.

                                I've left the country quite a few times. I take a cruise every year and it's really sad to see the economy of these Caribbean Countries.

                                I've been to: Bahama's, Jamaica, Honduras, Costa Maya and Cozumel in Mexico, Belize, and Grand Cayman. Most of these places have beggars on every corner, some with children begging as well. Grand Cayman was an exception, great economy, super friendly citizens, and sweet cars (older skylines everywhere and I did see a nice blue R34). None of these countries have to worry about war though. Just mother nature.

                                Where do you think any of these countries in Europe would be if the US never aided them?

                                I will say we are not liked by many Europeans based on my experiences with them on Xbox LIVE. Always seems to be "Wreck the American Day" when I would play GRID or any other racing game.
                                Well the Caribbean is WAY different then Europe.

                                I mean poor is poor, so in some instances it probably isn't much different, but they LOVE Americans in most places because our tourism helps their economy.

                                You are 100% correct in the fact that we are not very liked in a lot of places in Europe.

                                Most of the tourist places are fine, and if you never venture far from them then you would never know, but once you do or really talk up the locals you will find plenty of people who have a very strong feeling good or bad about the US.

                                And of course places that don't get a lot of tourism would be easier to spot the anti Americanism.



                                Originally posted by ChIoVnIdCa View Post
                                I never said it was bad to provide military aid to Israel. They are ALMOST an extension of the US military in a hostile region.. Its good for the US to have presence through Israel.

                                Just curious.. What is your personal connection to Israel? OT but just interested if you don't mind.
                                I didn't say it was bad to provide them support either, in fact they need as much support as they can get.

                                I was simply saying that i do not believe they would not be as strong as they are today WITHOUT US aid.

                                Most of our aid goes to their armament, so the fact that they have some of the best trained soldiers in the world, has little to do with our $$ or armament support.

                                They accomplished plenty without our backing(as our backing would have possibly sparked more issues) and so that is why i believe they would be pretty much where they are today without our aid.

                                They new early on that NO ONE was going to come to their rescue so in order to protect the jewish state and allow their people to prosper they took actions into their own hands and created one of the strongest military forces on the planet.

                                My personal connection to Israel is the fact that im Jewish.

                                Having been there a few times, I can say that no place else feels like "home".

                                It is a country where the majority is jewish, even though the majority is not religious.

                                As much stuff goes down, I never once felt unsafe.

                                It is a beautiful country with amazing history(not only for jewish peoples) and it is just a shame that some people hope for the destruction of it and its peoples.




                                Originally posted by Leung View Post
                                One saying i like to live by is "it's all pink inside".
                                Oh yea!!!!

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