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**H23Accord** · 03-17-2005, 04:46 PM

Ummm...it is because we mock that which we do not understand.

bottom line.

**Accord R33** · 03-17-2005, 04:51 PM

when i i first came on the site i got a lot of shit for having a body kit by all the JDM freaks. did it piss me off? of course, in fact i never used to post here for that reason. eventually people became more respectful of the car (mostly due to the turbo), and the fact they realized im not a stupid ricer and i know what the hell im talking about (most of the time lol).

i havnt had a problem in a while on that issue

**ChIoVnIdCa** · 03-17-2005, 04:54 PM

I have seen alot of kitted cars not get bashed if it done right, But usally the people getting bashed deserve it

**HenRoc** · 03-17-2005, 04:55 PM

Well I think your right.

And since I dont own a an Accord anymore I'm kinda seeing it too. JDM craze has grasped a hold of everyone in the community. But I'd say the reasons why some of us choose to follow the JDM route is because, maybe some of us are tired of the clear lights or the bodykits in general, I even got flamed for looking at a set of clears for my truck and I got pretty pissed...but then again they're only words.

I mean its hard to say a person who mods their car to the limit of their own expense is doing it to reflect their personality. Its kinda like when Fast and the Furious came out everyone wanted 'kits , neons, euro tails and even strobes.

I had strobes, neons (interior) and I almost bought Euros but decided against them.

And I hate to put in this term Mike but you do have JDM Mirrors dont you?
I mean we've talked numerous times off the board and you mentioned them.

Im not flaming so dont delete..this is an interesting topic to tackle and discuss.

A little JDM flare wouldn't hurt someone elses car, I'd do it if I really felt the need or had the money to do so...but If I did see someone with more JDM parts on his or her ride Id say they've either got the fever or there just doing it to look different.

As for everyone else who follows..dunno about that.

**accord_inspire** · 03-17-2005, 04:57 PM

seriouslly man this is offtopic what am about to say but .. your right at the point that people do go for the same look and same trend with amber jdm looks**** i know that theres been alot of flames on kitted accords and rice .. i guess people dont understand how other people feel about there cars . i was into jdm stuff way before i got to this site .. i really wasnt aware of what people thought of them . the way i saw things was as ***((wow in japan they have lots of kool options, let me start searching))))) thats it .. prices do go high for stuff on ebay but hey thats the name of the game . i mean i know you would like to make some money too if you where to sell parts not just jdm but other stuff too .. the way i see it is that we live in a world that evryone wants to be up there .. and have the best car out there ..

**AccordAnimal** · 03-17-2005, 04:59 PM

I think you are on base. However let me bullshit for a second.

"Why has it all of a sudden been everyone has to have their car look EXACTLY the same?"

I don't know if I totally agree with this statement. I agree that people fall into trends and such, but for this site I think everyone pretty much has their different likes and dislikes in a car. Me personally, all this JDM hype means nothing to me where as a lot of people would disagree with me. There are a lot of differences on this site I think.

I mean I know a lot of it is attitude of the person driving a car with Altezzas/Graphics/etc, but its just like it just doesn't seem fair that people come in here, post up something they're proud of, only to be told that their car should be made to look exactly like it did when they first got it, just lower.

It would help if you posted some examples of this. I know you gave the KarmaAccord example, but if you provided some links I think it would better support your stance.

I think you are smart for starting a good logical thread. Props!

Hope this was "intelligent"

Adam

**JohnnyB** · 03-17-2005, 05:12 PM

Yeah I agree wholeheartedly with what you say. There should NEVER be a negative comment made about anyones car. If someone did something to their car it is because thats what they wanna do. If you disagree with them too bad, do what you want with you vehicle and be proud of it. The real concern is that people actually listen to what others say and fall in line. I've been into the racing scene much before F&F came out and ruined it and believe it or not, that stupid ass movie ruined the import culture. Not because of the flashy cars but because of the mentality that people have towards upgrading cars. It really makes me sick to think that so many people just do what they are told and always copy what they see. The real problem is that Honda..and I don't care what type of Honda you own, it's basically ALL been done. At this point it's best to do what you like and not let anyone sway your opinion...afterall, it is your car.

**HenRoc** · 03-17-2005, 05:14 PM

Well this is an example (shoot me ok)

My car had those tails..I picked them up because I thought they looked cool. Then I posted them on the site and was told to loose them both.

My car was my car even though it was a rustbucket (Northeast is infamous for that) I took pride in it..I didnt care what anyone else thought.

I was known to my friends as Henry Honda and still am....

Its like if you do something you think is cool to your own vehicle others will judge you or tell you it looks *** etc. Shit like that.

**AccordWarrior** · 03-17-2005, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by accord_inspire

seriouslly man this is offtopic what am about to say but .. your right at the point that people do go for the same look and same trend with amber jdm looks**** i know that theres been alot of flames on kitted accords and rice .. i guess people dont understand how other people feel about there cars . i was into jdm stuff way before i got to this site .. i really wasnt aware of what people thought of them . the way i saw things was as ***((wow in japan they have lots of kool options, let me start searching))))) thats it .. prices do go high for stuff on ebay but hey thats the name of the game . i mean i know you would like to make some money too if you where to sell parts not just jdm but other stuff too .. the way i see it is that we live in a world that evryone wants to be up there .. and have the best car out there ..

This was definitely not a knock on you Inspire, I hope you didn't take it like that. For example, you have a theme going with your car, and it all flows, you had a goal, much like I have one for mine. I'll admit I've got some JDM parts too stashed around that I haven't pulled out yet. But this is what got me thinking. I was staring at sidemarkers I got out of a deal and I'm like I could put these on, it'll be another part for the list. It was at this point I realized, its just like I'm putting this on so I can say I have the sidemarkers, not because I want to. I think that's when you start running into problems. You start doing it, not because you like what you're putting on your car, but you're doing what you think everyone else will like.

I am also aware that certain things probably don't look all that great. I mean I remember back when i almost bought an alumimum wing, but I remember thinking I needed to get a drop first.

I guess what I'm just trying to get across is it seems like there's such a degree of homogenity among our cars as of late, and if you're not like the other cars you're subject to comments.

For example take Kamaccord. These were the first few comments on his car.

sorry to say but thats some asian flavored rice fo ya, sorry man just my 2 cents

yeah that red kicks ass, eventhough i would have kept the stock bumpers and just added a 5th gen front lip. to each his own
btw im not trying to bang your car, it still looks good.

looks nice... except for the bodykit, headlights, altezzas and rims

I mean how would you feel if you posted your pride and joy and got that as a reply. Its like you don't look like everyone else, please leave. I just think that its something to think about. To each their own, but how much of their own is being shaped by everyone else?

**i'm the girl** · 03-17-2005, 05:19 PM

wow if this thread doesn't just pull at my heart strings

right on, AccordWarrior

... i completely understand and agree for the most extent... beyond more than just looks - take my main thread on the V6 swap I have been through THREE DIFFERENT SITES and get met with "why don't you just do an H22?"

"Why don't you just..." what the hell is that? That wasn't an answer to my question, ths i Know for sure - i can't BEGIN to tell you how much i can't stand when people just fall back on trends and laziness, rather than use their brains, for once

And I'm sure that once I start posting up pics and plans for my car it's gonna start all over again with the looks, too -

But is other people's bs going to stop me? NO! And I guess all I'm trying to say is, in the end - part of me is going ahead with this project just for the sake of giving every other kid out their with a sense of independence and creative expression a bit of a voice

and, seriously, it's my money, dammit, i'll spend it how i want

**JohnnyB** · 03-17-2005, 05:20 PM

Fact of the matter is. Hondas have been hooked up in every different way. At this time in space the general concensus is that JDM is the way to go. But if people don't start taking risks with askew options, it's ultimately going to get boring. Evolution is an ongoing, everlasting, unavoidable thing....whats next? Who knows.....go with the flow until you find you own original style. Like someone said earlier though, I don;t think any one persons car looks the same as anyone elses car...whats the difference anyway because non of us live close enough to eachother for the cars to clash.

**rebels** · 03-17-2005, 06:00 PM

AccordWarrior, I've been waiting for a post like this for a long time. People here have changed a LOT. View my members ride page and check out the comments. The first pictures I posted up were right when it was sprayed blue with my first kit, invader c/f hood, and all that. People were in love with it.

I post up pictures of my car now, same body work as before, just a different color and a different body pieces, and I seriously get IM's saying to get a set of stock doors and paint the moldings. Honestly, if I wanted the side moldings, I would have kept them, as well as everything else I shaved.

I'm not biased when it comes to cars, people can do them how they want. Take BustedLX's old Accord for example.. no offense Jose but that car was beat on the outside. Rocking stock hub caps, dents galore, but that beat up car was smoking all of the cars we raced that day. It's not the fact of what the cars look like, it's the knowledge of the people behind the wheel and that person's love for this generation Accord.. honestly I would take no offense to anything he says about mine, or anyones, car because he's one of the smartest members on here and I am privileged to have a member like him around here.

Accord R33's car.. sexy ass blue. Phatdonut, awesome pearl white. AkkordLayinKit, just my style.. all shaved and kitted too.

Yes, I love the body kits, the body work, the paint, ect.. but just because I like body kits and big wheels and such.. that doesn't mean I don't like other cars. BustedLX's new Accord, I'm speechless when I see pictures of it. He has to have one of the nicest and cleanest engines bays around. Accord_inspire, he's into the JDM scene and thats cool but he customizes his stuff to be different. I think his car is hot, I'm not going to bash it because he doesn't have a body kit or shaved door handles.

I have to agree with you about people flaming the people with body kits, and the new ones who are just starting out. The first thought I bought was a set of 18" Tenzo R rims, altezzas, and window tint. Think what you want.. but I was sure as hell proud of my car and loved seeing it clean. I don't think it's right that all the "JDM/stock" people are bashing the kitted and show cars, because just as AccordWarrior said, I know I get more looks with my car than I would with a stock Cb7. Thats only a portion of the point though.. I like to help people out as much as I can about the experiences I've had with my car such as the body work and engine swap.

Hopefully from here on out it's less bashing and more respect.. I don't see the kitted people bashing on the "amber corners, jdm fogs, lips, ect.." but they seem to bash on us. Now if some of you JDM/Stockers would like to race some of us kitted cars, feel free. Accord R33, my self, Phatdonut, Kamaccord will be ready.. haha. Just kidding.. but let's make this more of a supportive community instead of bashing and hating on kits, since it's our particular style; as lips and stock parts aren't.

**accord_inspire** · 03-17-2005, 06:07 PM

rebels and accordwarrior you guys are right .. no am not taking this as a bad thing no flaming here .. promise .. but rebels your right i do get jdm parts but at the same time i customized them myself to be diff. but accordwarrior i completly understand your point . i really or i dont think i never bashed on noone's ride i think thats wrong .. i hope people can understand that evryone is diff... i did my car but i acomplished my goals .. i do go nuts once in a while about my parts due to it being rare and lots of people are looking for it .. am not greedy with sales or parts there is few peeps that i have delt with me and know the kind of person iam .. very responsible character here ..

**Accord R33** · 03-17-2005, 06:18 PM

well put adam

i have a feeling this is going to turn into JDM vs kits. i hope it doesnt..

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