Norway Bombing & youth camp shooting!

[turboAccordHSF]

I'm at work don't get out until 5, some one please tell me what's going on!!
My phone doesn't access YouTube and other sites except cb7tuner and other low data sites for some reason I can't reload the pages and its so slow but since cb7tuner is my most visited site it reloads just fine!!!

So far I hear stories from my co-workers saying 20-30 plp dead to 20-30 children dead or Idk what crap!

[JoshM]

2.36pm (BST) The centre of Oslo is rocked by at least one huge explosion, right, close to the government's headquarters and the offices of VG, the country's biggest newspaper. Initial fears suggest that Jens Stoltenberg, the country's prime minister, has been caught up in the blast, but government officials confirm he was not in his office at the time.

3.40pm Reports that more blasts are imminent cause panic throughout the city centre and people begin to flee the area. Locals living near the epicentre of the blast are told to evacuate their homes. Hundreds of victims are feared trapped in the devastated buildings.

3.46pm Norwegian police issue the first confirmation that a "powerful explosion" has taken place in the government quarter of the city. Shortly afterwards, NRK, the country's public broadcaster, reports that there has been at least one death. That figure rises to two.

5.10pm Emergency services in Oslo say at least 15 people have been injured in the blast, but the scale of the damage to surrounding buildings suggests many more could be hurt.

5.16pm Mr Stoltenberg, left, is taken to a secret location for his own safety, but issues a statement on television confirming that he is safe and well. He tells the Norwegian people that the ongoing situation is "very serious".

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5.25pm Reports begin to emerge of an incident at a youth camp outside Oslo organised by the ruling Norwegian Labour Party. Local journalists report that a gunman dressed as a policeman has opened fire on delegates gathered on the island of Utoya, right. Mr Stoltenberg who was due to address the meeting today describes the unfolding situation as "critical".

6pm Initial reports suggest multiple casualties at the Labour Party meeting, where more than 500 people were attending the annual event. Anti-terrorist squads are scrambled to the island and one person is arrested.

6.30pm The authorities confirm at least five people have been killed on Utoya.

6.45pm Supporters of the Global Jihad terror group claim responsibility for the attack. The group claims Norway has been targeted because of its "occupation of Afghanistan and the abuse of our Prophet Muhammad".

7pm The head of Oslo University Hospital says there are more than 100 walking wounded from the bomb blasts.

7.10pm With some mobile telephones being jammed, locals in Oslo are asked to unlock their Wi-Fi signals in order to allow those trapped in buildings to communicate with emergency services.

7.15pm The official death toll rises to 12 with five dead on the island and seven killed in the bomb blast. However, unofficial reports suggest the toll may be much higher.

The hallmark of a "mass casualty – no warning" attack with multiple targets is a classic tactic of the terrorist group and those who seek to emulate it.

The attack also has echoes of the bomb and gun attacks in Mumbai in 2008, albeit on a much smaller scale, which were carried out by the group Lashkar e-Taiba

A report earlier this year by Norwegian intelligence noted the risk created by Norwegian citizens who had received training in Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and Afghanistan.

Norway's Police Security Service (PST), the equivalent of MI5, has established links between extremists in Norway and al-Qaeda and rounded up an alleged terrorist cell with links to Britain almost exactly a year ago.

The group had a mixed set of members with diverse possible motives. It included Mikael Davud, a 39-year-old Chinese Uighur who has Norwegian citizenship; David Jakobsen, 31, an Uzbek living in the Ulleval University Hospital area of Oslo; and Shawan Sadek Saeed Bujak, 37, an Iraqi Kurd living in Grefsen, Oslo.

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Davud had previously lived in Pakistan and the Norwegian security service believe he was in touch with the Turkestan Islamic Party, a terrorist group of Muslim Uighurs based in Pakistan.

But he his also said to have been in contact with Rashid Rauf, a British al-Qaeda commander who has since been killed, and was also running simultaneous plots in Manchester, aimed at Easter shoppers, and in new York, aimed at the city's metro.

The PST also found passport photographs of Ibrahim Adam, one of Britain's most wanted terrorist suspects, at Davud's sixth floor flat, sparking an international alert amid concerns he was trying to return to Britain to launch an attack.

During the raids, police found bomb-making equipment including the key ingredients of a July 7-style hydrogen peroxide bomb, measuring equipment and walkie-talkies.

There are a number of possible motives for attacking Norway. Among the first would be its presence in Afghanistan, although the country has only 500 troops based in the relatively peaceful northern cities of Mazar-i-Sharif and Meymaneh.

Nevertheless in late 2007, Ayman al-Zawahiri, now the leader of al-Qaeda, said the group threatened Norway because it participated in the war against the Muslims

Added to that mix is the reprinting by a Norwegian newspaper in 2006 of a series of Danish cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammed, a highly emotive subject that has provoked attacks across the world.

A third motive is provided by the decision last week by a Norwegian prosecutor to file charges against Mullah Krekar, the founder of the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al-Islam, for threatening to kill Norwegian politicians if he is deported.

With the death toll rising and no verified claim of responsibility, authorities and pundits are speculating who may be behind the bombing that shook central Oslo and why.

The speculation ranges from the absurd and uninformed to the logical and possible, from the publication by Norwegian papers of controversial Danish cartoons five years ago to Norway’s involvement in Libya and Afghanistan to its efforts to extradite a radical Muslim cleric.

A terror group, Ansar al-Jihad al-Alami, or the Helpers of the Global Jihad, issued a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, according to Will McCants, a terrorism analyst at C.N.A., a research institute that studies terrorism. The message said the attack was a response to Norwegian forces’ presence in Afghanistan and to unspecified insults to the Prophet Muhammad.

“We have warned since the Stockholm raid of more operations,” the group said, according to Mr. McCants’ translation, apparently referring to a bombing in Sweden in December 2010. “What you see is only the beginning, and there is more to come.” The claim could not be confirmed.

Whatever the motive turns out to be, the bombing of government offices, including that of the prime minister, Norway is more likely than not to have been a target of opportunity.

That is if a militant group like Al Qaeda turns out to be perpetrator. At least theoretically although unlikely, it could of course also have been the work of a skilled lone bomb maker as in the case of the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

To be sure, Norway has no known domestic militant groups and despite a couple of references to the country in statements over the years by Al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri, the country hardly figures prominently on the group’s radar.

If indeed Al Qaeda or elements linked to it turns out to be the culprit, Norway is likely to have been primarily targeted because Norwegian nationals or immigrants with local knowledge were available to execute the attack. Those elements, if responsible, could also have acted on their own.

Three Norwegian residents, one of whom had received explosives training with al-Qaeda in Pakistan, were arrested a year ago on suspicion of plotting attacks against unspecified targets. One of them reportedly had attempted to construct a hydrogen peroxide-based bomb similar to that used in the July 7, 2005, attacks on London’s transport system and the foiled 2009 bombing of the New York subway. The three were an Uzbek, Uighur and a Kurdish Iraqi linked to the East Turkistan Islamic Movement and the Islamic Jihad Union, an Uighur and Uzbek militant group associated with Al Qaeda.

If Al Qaeda or elements associated with it prove to be responsible, the bombing would highlight the group’s weakness rather than its resurgence two months after the US killing of the group’s leader, Osama Bin Laden.

A bombing by Norwegians or immigrants although trained by Al Qaeda but acting on their own hardly demonstrates cohesion or command or control. If anything it would reflect underestimated grievances and discontent among the country’s immigrant community. Think poorly trained Swedish citizen Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly, who last December blew himself up on a Stockholm shopping street.

To be sure, Norway hosts a significant Somali exile community. Despite exhortations by Al Qaeda’s Yemeni affiliate that al Shabab, Somalia’s dominant jihadist militia, to be active globally, the group has so far shown little inclination to operate outside of Somalia, with the exception of Uganda, the backbone of the African peacekeeping force in the country.

Similarly, a bombing conceived by the Al Qaeda leadership whose execution depends on having coincidentally some assets available doesn’t speak to an organization that has strategically placed assets it can deploy at will and when needed.

It does however service Mr. Zawahiri’s need to establish himself as Mr. Bin Laden’s successor and probe that Al Qaeda is still alive and kicking. Like with many terrorist operations, terrorists often benefit from the fact that the psychological impact of their actions overshadows the reality of their capabilities.

Too much has happened stirring deep emotions since three Norwegian papers published controversial Danish cartoons portraying the Prophet Mohammed deemed blasphemous by many in the Muslim world. Granted, Danish police arrested early this year five men who allegedly were planning to attack the newspaper which first ran the Mohammad cartoons. But then, if the cartoon dispute still resonates anywhere, it would be Denmark.

Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi has threatened to strike back at those helping to enforce the United Nations-mandated no-fly zone in his country. But Mr. Qaddafi would seem to have his hands full fending off NATO-backs rebel attempts to break through to his stronghold in the capital Tripoli to bother about six Norwegian F-16 fighter jets participating in allied operations.

Similarly, 500 token Norwegian troops in Afghanistan are likely to figure prominently on the agenda of the Afghan Taliban, who don’t have a history of operating beyond the boundaries of their war-torn nation.

Finally, the bombing could have been sparked by the indictment this month of Iraqi Kurdish Islamist Najm al-Din Faraj Ahmad, better known as Mullah Krekar, the founder of Ansar al-Islam, a jihadist group suspected of suicide bombings in Iraq. Mr. Ahmad, who has been under arrest first and then house arrest in Norway for the past nine years, has threatened retaliation if Norway deports him to Iraq.

The long and short of this all is that at the time of this writing, we are tapping in the dark about who may be behind the Oslo attack and even once that has been established it still raises the question what that tells us.

(James M. Dorsey, formerly of The Wall Street Journal, is a senior fellow at the Nanyang Technological University’s S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies and the author of the blog, The Turbulent World of Middle East Soccer. He can be reached via email at: questfze@gmail.com)

As many as 10 dead in camp shooting, 7 in Oslo bombing Associated Press
Posted on July 22, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Updated today at 3:37 PM

OSLO, Norway (AP) — Police in Norway say 9 or 10 people have been killed in a shooting at an island youth camp, while at least seven others are dead after a bomb that ripped open buildings in the heart of Oslo.

A man has been arrested in the shooting -- and police say he had been seen in Oslo, about 60 miles away, before the explosion there.

Police say they don't yet know whether there was more than one shooter.

They say the gunman was dressed in a police uniform when he opened fire into a crowd of youths.

The Oslo bombing shattered most of the windows in a 20-floor high-rise where the country's prime minister, Jens Stoltenberg, and his administration work. But he was working at home, and wasn't hurt.

Other damaged buildings were home to government offices and some of Norway's leading newspapers.

One man who was in a nearby hotel, Ian Dutton, says the building shook -- and he looked outside to see a "wall of debris and smoke." Dutton, who is from New York, says the scene reminded him of 9/11 -- with people "covered in rubble" walking through "a fog of debris."

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239-a-14-( M.J. Gohel (GOH'-hehl), security and terrorism analyst, Asia Pacific Foundation, in AP interview)-"unit in Afghanistan"-Security and terrorism analyst M.J. Gohel of the Asia Pacific Foundation says al-Qaida is a prime suspect in the bombing and shooting incidents in Norway. (22 Jul 2011)

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255-a-10-( President Barack Obama, in remarks during Oval Office photo op with New Zealand prime minister)-"can to them"-President Barack Obama expresses his condelences to Norway's people. (22 Jul 2011)

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237-a-16-( Ian Dutton, New Yorker who was in Manhattan on 9/11 and who was staying in a hotel near the Oslo explosion, in AP interview)-"except official vehicles"-American Ian Dutton says downtown Oslo is much quieter than it normally would be on a Friday night. (22 Jul 2011)

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GRAPHICSBANK 1112169: Utoya Island, aerial view from July 21, taken before shooting at youth camp, Mapaid image on Norway flag texture, partial graphic (22 Jul 2011)

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GRAPHICSBANK: Norway (detail) map with Oslo (r) and Utoya Island locators, partial graphic (22 Jul 2011)

APPHOTO LON835: Wounded people are treated in the street in the centre of Oslo, Friday July 22, 2011, following an explosion that tore open several buildings including the prime minister's office, shattering windows and covering the street with documents and debris. (AP Photo/Scanpix, Berit Roald) (22 Jul 2011)

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APPHOTO LON834: An officer responds in the center of Oslo, Friday July 22, 2011, following an explosion that tore open several buildings including the prime minister's office, shattering windows and covering the street with documents and debris. (AP Photo/Scanpix, Thomas Winje Øijord) (22 Jul 2011)

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APPHOTO LON858: A victim is treated outside government buildings in the center of Oslo, Friday July 22, 2011, following an explosion that tore open several buildings including the prime minister's office, shattering windows and covering the street with documents. (AP Photo/Fartein Rudjord) NORWAY OUT (22 Jul 2011)

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APPHOTO LON860: An official attempts to clear away spectators from buildings in the center of Oslo, Friday July 22, 2011, following an explosion that tore open several buildings including the prime minister's office, shattering windows and covering the street with documents. (AP Photo/Fartein Rudjord) NORWAY OUT (22 Jul 2011)

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[Turbo Dave]

ahh you beat me to it.

shit is fucked up:

“There are people on the streets bleeding. There is glass everywhere. There is chaos here. The windows are blown out of all the nearby buildings.”

Another eyewitness reported seeing “a column of flames” rise as high as the fifth floor of surrounding buildings after the bomb detonated.

Multiple shootings were later reported at the Labour party youth summer camp on an island near Utøya, 40km north-west of Oslo.

Some eyewitnesses said the death toll could be higher than the nine or 10 cited by police. Eyewitness Andre Scheie told NRK: “There are very many dead by the shore ... There are about 20 to 25 dead.”

Senior Labour party officials were due to visit the camp, although it was not clear if any were there at the time. An organiser at the camp reported hearing “many, many” gunshots.

Speaking by phone from near the scene, he said more than 600 youths aged 14-25 were attending the camp. Some were trying to swim 500m to the mainland to escape the gunfire and others were in hiding, he said.

[turboAccordHSF]

That's not right at all!!!...

I believe this could be a response to the lybia bombings and its involvement wig NATO.

I can't seem to view this dam video but here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql6vc...e_gdata_player

[turboAccordHSF]

from what I read is sounds like 9/11 deja vu

[Turbo Dave]

from what I read is sounds like 9/11 deja vu

lol maybe on a small scale minus the overwhelming "inside job" evidence.

[texasvtak]

lol maybe on a small scale minus the overwhelming "inside job" evidence.

"evidence"

[TracieS]

That sucks one of my very good friends just left from that area earlier this week.