Sick fabricator...

[ChampCoupe]

warning, this is a long read...

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=332026

[Lynx]

I would love to be that kid working on that project, lol

Sick.

[phatdoughnut]

Nice, he lives close to bigcat

[Accrdwgnguy]

I've been following that project for awhile, its crazy.

Alot of the guys on that forum just make things like that happen. Things we tell people are impossible here they just do. There was one guy that just built a frame for his C10 just so he could go lower, and he was a college kid working out of a rented garage in his spare time.

[Mike1357]

Thats an amazing project. It's really cool to see it all being shaped and the custom pieces falling into place. They're putting F20C's in the strangest things, but they're still awesome!

[ChampCoupe]

i needd take some welding and fabrication classes. i have been following it since earlier this year. good stuff on that site.

[steelbluesleepR]

there's a guy local to me doing a similar project, he owns Motorsports and is also a damn good fabricator. here's his 4-door nova that he's dropping an ecotec inline-4 into and turbocharging:
http://417racing.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=27787

[rexload]

I looked through the whole thread.

Don't get me wrong, the guy does outstanding metal work, BUT while it all seems to be making sense in THEORY, I just don't see how something like that is going to be a fully functional/drivable vehicle.

Most suspension/steering parts on the car are basically home made. They do look good but they are still home made. Without testing on the road, there is no way to tell if his design will withstand serious abuse.

It looks like there is less than an inch of clearance between some suspension parts and in the engine bay. Will he even be able to make a turn in that car? Will he be able to align the wheels? How does he know that there will be enough clearance between the front wheels and the wheel wells when he sits the car on the ground, gets in and has a 250lbs buddy in the passengers seat... when the clearance already looks TIGHT. Also, I don't see how a homemade speedometer made partially of parts from the 1950s and partially from an RSX is just going to work without any calibration/etc. How does he know how much engine movement there will be on hard shifts and that the exhaust header won't bang on the shell every time he shifts when everything looks so tight? There are just too many little things about this build that make me wonder how many of these projects are actually driven and not just towed to different car shows.

I'll probably get flamed for saying all this... I understand that the amount of custom work is amazing but I just don't see how this car will be fully functional with everything being home made and not tested on the road...

[steelbluesleepR]

I looked through the whole thread.

Don't get me wrong, the guy does outstanding metal work, BUT while it all seems to be making sense in THEORY, I just don't see how something like that is going to be a fully functional/drivable vehicle.

Most suspension/steering parts on the car are basically home made. They do look good but they are still home made. Without testing on the road, there is no way to tell if his design will withstand serious abuse.

It looks like there is less than an inch of clearance between some suspension parts and in the engine bay. Will he even be able to make a turn in that car? Will he be able to align the wheels? How does he know that there will be enough clearance between the front wheels and the wheel wells when he sits the car on the ground, gets in and has a 250lbs buddy in the passengers seat... when the clearance already looks TIGHT. Also, I don't see how a homemade speedometer made partially of parts from the 1950s and partially from an RSX is just going to work without any calibration/etc. How does he know how much engine movement there will be on hard shifts and that the exhaust header won't bang on the shell every time he shifts when everything looks so tight? There are just too many little things about this build that make me wonder how many of these projects are actually driven and not just towed to different car shows.

I'll probably get flamed for saying all this... I understand that the amount of custom work is amazing but I just don't see how this car will be fully functional with everything being home made and not tested on the road...

um, thats how cars were made before comuters helped designed them. they built the components (or models of them) and if something didnt work, they fixed it. if you have lots of experience building things, you get to know what will work and what wont.



the rear suspension design is called a 4-link and is one of the most common and easiest suspension designs to design properly and fabricate. you only need to do a little bit of geometry to make it work perfectly.

the front suspension is pretty much just the stock s2000 front suspension welded to a new car. as long as it is put in straight, its kinda hard to screw up.

as far as clearance, about half of the first 20 pages was all about getting the front inner fenders to work with the new front suspension.

[wed3k]

um, thats how cars were made before comuters helped designed them. they built the components (or models of them) and if something didnt work, they fixed it. if you have lots of experience building things, you get to know what will work and what wont.



the rear suspension design is called a 4-link and is one of the most common and easiest suspension designs to design properly and fabricate. you only need to do a little bit of geometry to make it work perfectly.

the front suspension is pretty much just the stock s2000 front suspension welded to a new car. as long as it is put in straight, its kinda hard to screw up.

as far as clearance, about half of the first 20 pages was all about getting the front inner fenders to work with the new front suspension.

there's a lot more that goes into a car than just welding a s2k to another car. sure you can do it...but it probably wouldnt handle anything close to a stock s2k.

[ChampCoupe]

I looked through the whole thread.

Don't get me wrong, the guy does outstanding metal work, BUT while it all seems to be making sense in THEORY, I just don't see how something like that is going to be a fully functional/drivable vehicle.

Most suspension/steering parts on the car are basically home made. They do look good but they are still home made. Without testing on the road, there is no way to tell if his design will withstand serious abuse.

It looks like there is less than an inch of clearance between some suspension parts and in the engine bay. Will he even be able to make a turn in that car? Will he be able to align the wheels? How does he know that there will be enough clearance between the front wheels and the wheel wells when he sits the car on the ground, gets in and has a 250lbs buddy in the passengers seat... when the clearance already looks TIGHT. Also, I don't see how a homemade speedometer made partially of parts from the 1950s and partially from an RSX is just going to work without any calibration/etc. How does he know how much engine movement there will be on hard shifts and that the exhaust header won't bang on the shell every time he shifts when everything looks so tight? There are just too many little things about this build that make me wonder how many of these projects are actually driven and not just towed to different car shows.

I'll probably get flamed for saying all this... I understand that the amount of custom work is amazing but I just don't see how this car will be fully functional with everything being home made and not tested on the road...

your not gonna get flamed. but you have to understand this, to test something you have to make a running model and test it on the street before you can make improvements. He is still in the beginning stages. after he gets to car on the road if any changes are needed i am sure he will address them.

[rexload]

um, thats how cars were made before comuters helped designed them. they built the components (or models of them) and if something didnt work, they fixed it. if you have lots of experience building things, you get to know what will work and what wont.

How is he going to fix something that doesn't work though? Cut the car apart and start over?

the rear suspension design is called a 4-link and is one of the most common and easiest suspension designs to design properly and fabricate. you only need to do a little bit of geometry to make it work perfectly.

the front suspension is pretty much just the stock s2000 front suspension welded to a new car. as long as it is put in straight, its kinda hard to screw up.

as far as clearance, about half of the first 20 pages was all about getting the front inner fenders to work with the new front suspension.

Well I've never built a 4-link from scratch at home so I don't have any idea if it is easy or hard to mess it up. So I was not talking from experience, just something I thought about.

And in the front, I don't understand how the car is going to turn if he keeps those wheels and the ride height so low. And I don't understand how he calculated the tires wont rub on the inner fenders when the car is completed and on the ground and with a driver and a passenger inside driving on an actual road with some bumps... Plus home made tie rods.. Idk. But I could be completely wrong, I am just thinking out loud.

your not gonna get flamed. but you have to understand this, to test something you have to make a running model and test it on the street before you can make improvements. He is still in the beginning stages. after he gets to car on the road if any changes are needed i am sure he will address them.

But that is my point. How do you make changes to a project like this? You can't just cut it up and start all over? Well hopefully it all works out for the guy.

[ChampCoupe]

in the design stages if he has issues i might end up cutting up and starting over. if his design and work is good he wont have to.

[Gtseviper]

How is he going to fix something that doesn't work though? Cut the car apart and start over?



Well I've never built a 4-link from scratch at home so I don't have any idea if it is easy or hard to mess it up. So I was not talking from experience, just something I thought about.

And in the front, I don't understand how the car is going to turn if he keeps those wheels and the ride height so low. And I don't understand how he calculated the tires wont rub on the inner fenders when the car is completed and on the ground and with a driver and a passenger inside driving on an actual road with some bumps... Plus home made tie rods.. Idk. But I could be completely wrong, I am just thinking out loud.



But that is my point. How do you make changes to a project like this? You can't just cut it up and start all over? Well hopefully it all works out for the guy.

well I got a question for you...how did you install your turbo manifold...you had to modify the downpipe until it works right...that is the same way he is going to do it...the same way he built it, is the same way he knows exactly how to fix any type of problem because he build it...Experience is key and not to many people throw complete engine in without some type of car exposure...take for instance that gauge he has to the transmission..I'm not sure what is it exactly, but I know it has do with something to alignment of the transmission...as mention before...before computers everyone had to do it manually

[Bullhorn7]

I love this! Totally bookmarking. Cant wait for it to run! I might pay this man a visit just to see it!