the NSX lives on.....

[zmanwit90accord]

..... in racing at least

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Front mounted V8?

[zmanwit90accord]

if you read some of the comments, we're not the only ones dissapointed. they (honda) could have done much better. hell, lexus unveiled a $400,000 car in the middle of this econoy downturn but it didnt stop them. honda could have easily gone down this route and made a nice v6 like the original and sold it for much less and actually allow it to become a production model. i think i read somewhere that honda doesnt think they should make sports cars because theyre focusing on whats popular right now (hybrids, fuel efficiency, small comapct cars). trouble is, theyve been doing that since they started. sporty models were welcomed with open arms and now honda wont make ay new ones.

it is a shame.

[owequitit]

if you read some of the comments, we're not the only ones dissapointed. they (honda) could have done much better. hell, lexus unveiled a $400,000 car in the middle of this econoy downturn but it didnt stop them. honda could have easily gone down this route and made a nice v6 like the original and sold it for much less and actually allow it to become a production model. i think i read somewhere that honda doesnt think they should make sports cars because theyre focusing on whats popular right now (hybrids, fuel efficiency, small comapct cars). trouble is, theyve been doing that since they started. sporty models were welcomed with open arms and now honda wont make ay new ones.

it is a shame.

Toyota lost over 3 billion dollars last year. Honda didn't. They actually MADE money.

Also, you misunderstood the comment about sports cars. They didn't say they didn't want to make them. What the CEO said was that if they do a supercar, it won't be about bigger engine/more hp. That would put it back in the vein of the original NSX which was about more with less.

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If Honda does follow through with this car, you can bet that whatever designs are used for this race car will trickle down into production cars. That's largely why car companies participate in racing... to test new technology at the limit (isn't that what NASCAR is for? To test out new carb designs? ).

This car may never make it to a Honda showroom, but I'm quite sure that Honda will have a kickass sports car or supercar ready to go as soon as the market is ready for it again.

Nissan took a risk with the GT-R. I think the hype was good for them. The price for the performance was quite good. The lower level cars (such as the Altima coupe) carry hints of the GT-R's styling. Putting that thing on the market in this economic dry spell was risky, but it seems to have helped them.

Toyota's supercar is EXTREMELY expensive. I don't doubt that the most powerful car company in the world is capable of making a car that's worth every penny, but will people buy a car with such a hefty price tag from the company that pooped out the Yaris? (before anyone mentions it... yes... I know... Alfa Romeo can pull that off...) Their car is also only mildy hyped, and the styling isn't nearly as impressive as the GT-R's styling. For a car with that pricetag, I find it rather uninspiring, unless the production model has more to offer. Toyota used to be cutting edge in styling... now, I feel they are quite bland. Not a good thing when you want a flashy supercar on the market!




Honda is being smart. They know that this economic situation (which isn't limited just to the US) is going to be difficult on everyone. The American "Big 3" damn near collapsed... and they were once the most powerful car companies in the world, in one of the most profitable continents for automobile sales.
A supercar with a high production cost and a high pricetag won't be profitable. The S2000 was impractical (and also, seeing as it was very well designed, probably didn't have nearly as high of a profit margin as say, a Fit). Honda has a strong hybrid system in the Insight and Civic. They have economy covered in the Fit and Civic. They have entry level luxury with competitive power in the Accord. They have small 4wd in the CRV and Element. They have useful people haulers in the Pilot and Odyssey (which is the only minivan on the market with any aesthetic appeal, IMO) They have that oddball Ridgeline that... well... I don't get why it's popular, but hey, it is!
The Acura lineup does luxury very well. The TSX is priced right. The TL is a bit pricey, but you get what you pay for. The RL... wasn't that given a death sentence? The RSX was redundant, with the Civic Si coupe filling that slot perfectly.

They have cars priced right, in all categories (minus pure sports car... and they won't be able to compete with the Mustang or Miata without cutting corners or doing extensive R&D on a totally new platform...) They've pulled into their shell for safety, but I have a feeling they'll be back with something great as soon as this storm passes.

[F22HB]

Yea... now isn't exactly a good time to come out with a new production super car. Its a smart move.

[Flatline]

should have kept the V10.... Honda V10's sound like what heaven should sound like...

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should have kept the V10

And mid-engine.

[wed3k]

fuck v10 and fuck midengine.

[gloryaccordy]

The LF-A is the ultimate fail. It makes a Ferarri look like a bargain.

I don't know how I feel about this. I hope whatever it is helps Honda bring out a sports car or GT that's available to the masses. They owe us.

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The LF-A is the ultimate fail. It makes a Ferarri look like a bargain.

I don't know how I feel about this. I hope whatever it is helps Honda bring out a sports car or GT that's available to the masses. They owe us.

I wouldn't say it's a complete fail... It's probably perfectly competitive with a Ferrari... however, much of the cost of a Ferrari is for the prestige that accompanies the brand. Lexus doesn't have that prestige. "Lexus. More than you can afford, pal!" Somehow, that just doesn't work.

Nissan did it right. The GT-R may not quite be as refined as some higher priced supercars, but the performance, appearance, and level of technology you get for the price makes it a bargain.

The NSX was somewhere between the GT-R and LF-A of today. It was a bit more refined in terms of build quality and engineering... often compared to Ferrari without any serious opposition. It was fairly underpowered for a "supercar", and a bit overpriced (all of the other Japanese makers had 300hp cars for considerably less money...though most were brutish and unrefined, or unreliable, in comparison to the NSX)
For Honda to release something competitive, I doubt they'd do it for under $100,000. It would be pricier than the GT-R, and cheaper than the LF-A. I would expect it to be highly competitive with both.

[lil_dcb7]

The LF-A is the ultimate fail. It makes a Ferarri look like a bargain.

The LF-A is about just as purposeful as a Veyron. It's not meant to be accessible to every one. Hell, what if ithey don't sell a SINGLE one? If thats the case, that would be WAY more beneficial to Toyota than a non existant NSX ever would be.

Toyota built the LF-A to prove something. They know how, they could, and they did. Every thing about that car is experimental technology.

LF-A is a stepping stone. It's a gateway to future consumer based technology. Has it crossed your mind that maybe, JUST MAYBE, the next IS-F will come with a V10 and wax the FU(* out of the M5? Maybe they won't even do that. Maybe they'll make a more consumer orientated coupe based on the LF-A. V10, Mid Engine etc etc.

Toyota is doing. Honda isn't. Next gen S roadster? Supposed to be the S3000, right? Axed. NSX? Axed.

It seems like lately, what honda cant. Toyota can. And will. LF-A is just a massive, bold statement.

Just because none of us can afford one, doesn't mean it Fails.

[Law Grandeur]

pretty much

[coletrain]

Well, the only way Honda could still race the NSX in JGTC was to make a new prototype with the required FR layout.