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    tunable ecu ?what one u use ? wit that motor?
    Originally posted by deevergote
    This thread is over a year old, you fucking retard.
    i dont know why this popped up but U MAD BRO? not my fault u is FAKE! CLOWN ASS

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      Originally posted by speedfr3ak View Post
      tunable ecu ?what one u use ? wit that motor?
      Have you even looked at the original post? And please don't ever replace "wit" for "with".
      My Member's Ride Thread

      Bisimoto header before & after dyno

      1993 10th Anniversary: F22a6, H23IM, Bisimoto header, Custom mandrel exhaust, 5spd swap.

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        Suspension is a key performance component in any decent vehcile build. Progress has been the suspension facility of choice for all Bisimoto Engineering projects, and many successful road race, time attack, drag and salt flat teams in the US and overseas. Time and time again Progress Technology products are being used on winning teams in the numerous sanctioning bodies, IMSA, IDRC, SCCA, NASA, SCTA, IDRA, World Challenge, and Honda Challenge.


        The Bisimoto Engineering WagoVan was graced with the Progress Series I coil-over kit. The “easy to install” coil over system is the perfect balance for the performance minded enthusiast looking to make huge improvements in handling and appearance where quality, durability, and proven track performance is of the utmost value. The aggressive suspension tune is ideal for superior street performance, light drag and autocross applications. The stockers, were far from optimal for my build:





        The Series I exclusive take-apart dampers are tunable and rebuild-able; in addition, the threaded steel bodies are plated with attractive corrosion-resistant electroless nickel. This kit gave us the ride height adjustments we desired, ideal for on the track or at the show. The average Honda enthusiast will love the fact that these kits are covered under a one year warranty to protect them from any defects in workmanship or parts failure.



        Cut out/away view:



        Progress creates and calibrates the dyno curves in all the coil-overs designed utilizing an in-house shock dyno, and matches the spring rates to optimize performance and ride compliance.



        All sport spring designs are painstakingly designed in-house and extensively tested to meet exacting standards. Below is a dyno chart of the Bisimoto wagon's rear shock(s):




        An obvious weak point on the EE suspension was the skinny OEM sway bar. On spirited driving days, I would love to prevent traction robbing “lean” that rolls part of the outside tires off the pavement. Progress Sport-tuned Anti-roll bars came to the rescue: replacing wimpy OEM bar and rubber bushings with larger diameter (stiffer) alloy steel bars and polyurethane bushings. More roll stiffness means less body "lean", and the Toyo tires stay flatter on the pavement (larger contact patches). The result is more grip and added driver control!







        After over two decades of abuse, the rear trailing arms were in a horrible state, with cracks to boot.



        Out they went:





        They had to be torched out:





        New progress bushings pressed in:



        Progress Civic rear trailing arm bushings are high durometer, polyurethane replacement bushings to minimize deflection, and replaced our wagon stockers. These are popular for the Civic / CRX racing applications. These SCCA & NHRA legal components respond instantly to driver input and maintain suspension geometry under load, making them the ideal choice for demanding drag and road racing use.



        Another set of cost effective and excellent upgrades from Progress Technology were their front and rear lower control arm bearings. These are zero-deflection control arm solid bushings that are popular for the Civic racing and hot street applications. The all-metal pivot bushings replace soft OEM rubber parts with spherical bearings. These bushings are machined for direct replacement fit with no machining required for installation.



        The balance of the suspension rubber was replaced by the Energy Suspension Hyper-flex master set bushings, for the 1988-91 civic/crx. Energy suspension offers patented front-to-rear coverage for most import and domestic vehicles, with the largest product line in the industry. The kit even has a shifter bushing set, which gave an amazing positive feel to the Skunk 2 short shifter mechanism used in the Bisimoto Wagon. Honestly, if you plan on modifying, restoring an old one like we are, or even building a car from scratch, the Hyper-flex system is highly recommended.



        After all was said and done, the wagon was corner balanced, and without driver and fluids weighed in at a healthy 2288 pounds.





        With all fluids in place, and with me at the helm, the wagon ballooned to 2591 pounds! The front corners settled in within 7 pounds, and the rears within 11 pounds: a well balanced setup.
        'Bisimoto D15/D16/F18/F22
        World's Fastest and Quickest TRUE unibody all motor FWD
        World's Fastest All Motor SOHC Honda
        1988 CRX Unibody, D16 full street: 12.68 @ 107mph
        1988 CRX Unibody, D15 full race: 10.77 @ 123mph
        1988 CRX Unibody, F22A full race: 9.81 @ 139mph
        2006 Insight Unibody, F22A: 9.26 @ 152mph
        NEW!:www.bisimoto.com: parts, dyno tuning, apparel, technology!
        Bisimoto's Facebook page
        478 HP naturally aspirated F22A!!!

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          Corner Balancing

          I wonder how many other big power builds get this kind of treatment


          Originally posted by Maple50175
          Oh here we go again. Maples other half.

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            sweet suspension setup bisi!

            i never knew that progress was that involved with their shocks. I also have the energy suspension hyper flex system. Even tho i have installed quite all of the bushings i still noticed a nice difference in the handling and the ride quality.
            I still have yet to find some rear trailing arm bushings for the CB chassis tho..

            sick build man i really gotta give ya props. After hearing all that criticism about you only being able to successfully to build NA you really stepped up and proved that your one honda guy to be reckoned with whether it be NA or mass BOOSTT!

            8 Accords so far:
            '81 SE Sedan(1st Gen), '83 SE Sedan(2nd Gen), '89 SE Sedan(3rd Gen)
            '89 DX Sedan(3rd Gen), '92 LX Coupe(4th Gen), '92 EX Wagon(4th Gen)
            (3rd gen parts car) I'm currently Driving a '14 Accord Sport 9th Gen

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              Originally posted by F22Cb7Rid3r View Post
              I still have yet to find some rear trailing arm bushings for the CB chassis tho..
              http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=108137


              Originally posted by Maple50175
              Oh here we go again. Maples other half.

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                Wow bisi! This car is becoming an all around beast.

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                  wow thats a beautiful build!

                  instagram @mikeymeyagi

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                    I was out of the country on business, and just returned this week. After the break-in with the Torco TBO on our Dynapack dynamometer, we drained the dirty break-in oil, and filled up with Torco SR-1 Racing 10w-40 synthetic oil.



                    The TBO did an excellent job in scrubbing contaminants from the freshly built engine. Below is a picture of the Golden Eagle drain magnet after the break-in period.



                    A nice advantage of using the Dynapack dyno, is the keen advantage of having access to the “set speed” function: this allows a dyno operator to break in street and race engines by setting a predetermined RPM target, and varying the throttle accordingly. This also allows for impeccable tuning of partial throttle environments for the ultimate in drivability: a huge advantage over inertia-style roller dynos.



                    With some tuning, on my part using, the new AEM tuner software and the series 2 AEM EMS, we were able to extract an amazing 389.9 whp and 255.3 wtq at the Turbonetics RG-45 wastegate pressure of 13 psi!!!!



                    With numbers like this at low boost, on unleaded pump fuel, without the activation of the AEM water-meth kit, we are in for a great ride…and the possibility of exceeding our power goals! This example is a true testament of the reliable power that can be realized, if you choose the right parts for your build. With peak torque hovering in the 7400rpm range, and the horsepower at 8500 and still climbing, the Bisimoto level 3.6 camshaft was performing its designed duty.

                    I have some many items to attend to since my return to the US. I will try my best to come back soon and share some mid boost level runs, and share some of the issues we experienced with higher boost levels...and how we solved them.
                    'Bisimoto D15/D16/F18/F22
                    World's Fastest and Quickest TRUE unibody all motor FWD
                    World's Fastest All Motor SOHC Honda
                    1988 CRX Unibody, D16 full street: 12.68 @ 107mph
                    1988 CRX Unibody, D15 full race: 10.77 @ 123mph
                    1988 CRX Unibody, F22A full race: 9.81 @ 139mph
                    2006 Insight Unibody, F22A: 9.26 @ 152mph
                    NEW!:www.bisimoto.com: parts, dyno tuning, apparel, technology!
                    Bisimoto's Facebook page
                    478 HP naturally aspirated F22A!!!

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                      finally you give us an update you slut glad you got back safely so when can we see a vid? i wanna hear this thing roar

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                        lol....I had this up for a while:
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIhA7_c_Yx0
                        'Bisimoto D15/D16/F18/F22
                        World's Fastest and Quickest TRUE unibody all motor FWD
                        World's Fastest All Motor SOHC Honda
                        1988 CRX Unibody, D16 full street: 12.68 @ 107mph
                        1988 CRX Unibody, D15 full race: 10.77 @ 123mph
                        1988 CRX Unibody, F22A full race: 9.81 @ 139mph
                        2006 Insight Unibody, F22A: 9.26 @ 152mph
                        NEW!:www.bisimoto.com: parts, dyno tuning, apparel, technology!
                        Bisimoto's Facebook page
                        478 HP naturally aspirated F22A!!!

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                          Originally posted by Bisimoto View Post
                          lol....I had this up for a while:
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIhA7_c_Yx0
                          nice. when you gonna put it on the track?

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                            As soon as I get a chance. I am extremely busy recently, and barely have time form myself, let alone racing.
                            'Bisimoto D15/D16/F18/F22
                            World's Fastest and Quickest TRUE unibody all motor FWD
                            World's Fastest All Motor SOHC Honda
                            1988 CRX Unibody, D16 full street: 12.68 @ 107mph
                            1988 CRX Unibody, D15 full race: 10.77 @ 123mph
                            1988 CRX Unibody, F22A full race: 9.81 @ 139mph
                            2006 Insight Unibody, F22A: 9.26 @ 152mph
                            NEW!:www.bisimoto.com: parts, dyno tuning, apparel, technology!
                            Bisimoto's Facebook page
                            478 HP naturally aspirated F22A!!!

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                              Originally posted by Bisimoto View Post
                              As soon as I get a chance. I am extremely busy recently, and barely have time form myself, let alone racing.
                              dag. well thats no fun. customer builds?

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                                I am late getting into this thread so it took me a while to read through everything and yes i read all 12 pages of updates and posts. Amazing build and platform. Also saw mention of Bisi in the last HT magazine i picked up where he tuned a very nice integra for a WA car enthusiest that was featured in their mag.

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