Bisi's latest... droool

[noobcake]

just for the record.
there are no-names out there making over 600whp easily on d16s, with 25% of bisi's budget.

this thing should crush 700whp.

still a sick ass build, but just thought i would share.

[fatboy1185]

just for the record.
there are no-names out there making over 600whp easily on d16s, with 25% of bisi's budget.

this thing should crush 700whp.

still a sick ass build, but just thought i would share.

Maybe a few, but not many at all. I remember a few years ago when a guy made 500whp on a D, everyone was in shock.

[noobcake]

lol yeah.
people are doing now on vitaras

[JPsAccordSE]

In case you guys haven't seen this yet:

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=148192

[bcjammerx]

getting 500 hp on a FI 4 cyl is a big deal, going from 500 to 600 (reliably) is a huge deal...going from 500 to 700 is massive

an additional/reliable 200hp (no matter the resulting hp) is very very impressive...even on FI

[Bisimoto]

The turbo is half the engine.

Yes, it is huge...bigger than the valve cover..lol

saw the setup a couple months ago at his shop. wasn't public yet either. now it is. his shop is like a dream house for us cb7 owners. I drooled everywhere. esp. in his garage. wow.

It was fantastic meeting you!

Yea, I seen it too back in May 2008 at his shop, he's always got ideas. It just shows he's not just an NA guy. Like I've said, if you know the NA principles well, turbo is a walk in the park and you'll get better numbers.

Anyone else notice that's not the original head on the built motor. Interesting, he must have thrown something on there that flows better.

Yes, Cisco, in stock form, the vtec D-heads flow better than their non-v counterparts. The billet cams are also more cost effective for the average enthusiast than hard welded ones.

That turbo is no joke

Wonder how he's gonna strengthen the drivetrain....

I will try the stock gears at first...but aftermarkets would be great!

That man is a fucking genious and one of the best builders of all time. I wanna see video NOW.

I will have soo many vids of this, it will not be funny: idling vids, track vids, dyno vids, street vids, interior vids..lol

Is it me..or is he gonna be runnin twin gates?? But right now their. Flanges arnt welded on? All I see is just tubes...below the compressor?

Single gate for simplicity and reliability. The single gate has been proven to work as well as twins on a twin scroll manifold. Exhaust gases are fluids as well, and when the gate is closed, there is no contamination or mixing of the divided housing.

How big is that turbo? Anyone know?

Pretty large: a 65.7mm inducer on the ported compressor (think T-66), with a 4" turbo inlet, and 2.5" outlet. The ports preven surge on such a small displacement engine. Turbine is 0.84 ar t4 with a 3" vband outlet. Ball bearing.

just for the record.
there are no-names out there making over 600whp easily on d16s, with 25% of bisi's budget.

this thing should crush 700whp.

still a sick ass build, but just thought i would share.

Actually, the only two things that separate my build vs a popular 609whp d16build (only one of them exists) is the fact that I sleeved mine and use arias forged pistons. This added $1300 to my build, with much reliability built in: a far cry from being 75% more in budget dollars.

The highest hp D series is 735whp on methanol, full race, with a GT72R (huge turbo). We plan on being about 30whp shy of that mark on unleaded gasoline, and fully streetable.

Thanks for the well wishes, nonetheless.

The build is coming along nicely!

[Pandemic]

Bisi, I'd love to see what you can do with a turbo F22Ax!

[Bisimoto]

Bisi, I'd love to see what you can do with a turbo F22Ax!

It is coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kentucky accord]

We plan on being about 30whp shy of that mark on unleaded gasoline, and fully streetable.

Thanks for the well wishes, nonetheless.

The build is coming along nicely!

do you think saying its running unleaded gasoline may be a little misleading? sure the fuel will be unleaded but it will be well over 110oct.

[Bisimoto]

do you think saying its running unleaded gasoline may be a little misleading? sure the fuel will be unleaded but it will be well over 110oct.

Not at all, we will use 91 pump, and also test with 108 unleaded Torco fuel.

[wed3k]

the infamous vitara setup makes 609.

[kentucky accord]

Not at all, we will use 91 pump, and also test with 108 unleaded Torco fuel.

using water and/or meth just to see if you can do 700 on pump gas seems sorta silly to me. it will make the car a dyno queen and seriously misleading, IMO.

good luck with the build and your goals, 700 on a D is impressive no matter what fuel is running through it.

personally, i would just use oxygenated unleaded fuel and be done with it.

[Bisimoto]

On the contrary, many street apps run it to offset the cost of race fuel. This is very popular in the evo world, and just catching on with hondas. It only comes on at a predetermined boost level, and 1 gallon can last over a month with moderate street driving. It offers the ultimate in cost effective street/strip monsters. This will NOT be a dyno queen, but a driven vehicle. I hope that helps.

[quickangel93]

go bisi. cant wait to see this monster. at first i thought u were going to be awd.

i was looking into your h2d kit, since ill be doing a civic wagon awd setup on a accord. just a few questions

can u make the mounts for a cb7 in that kit?

how good are the d series trannys and rear ends?

is there a company or yours that could make gears?

[deevergote]

On the contrary, many street apps run it to offset the cost of race fuel. This is very popular in the evo world, and just catching on with hondas. It only comes on at a predetermined boost level, and 1 gallon can last over a month with moderate street driving. It offers the ultimate in cost effective street/strip monsters. This will NOT be a dyno queen, but a driven vehicle. I hope that helps.

I know at least 2 people that do, or at least have, used meth injection for their daily drivers.

go bisi. cant wait to see this monster. at first i thought u were going to be awd.

i was looking into your h2d kit, since ill be doing a civic wagon awd setup on a accord. just a few questions

can u make the mounts for a cb7 in that kit?

how good are the d series trannys and rear ends?

is there a company or yours that could make gears?

An AWD Wagovan would be pretty sweet... though I would think the Honda AWD system would take quite a bit of beefing up. It's not made to put down a ton of power!
Honestly, if you plan on making your CB AWD... you might want to look into stronger AWD parts, such as something from a Subaru or Mitsubishi, or even an Audi.

The H2D or H2B setup would require more than just mounts for a CB. The B and D transmissions are shifted via rods, whereas the H and F transmissions are shifted with cables. It's not overly difficult to put a cable transmission into a rod-shifted car, but to do it the other way around would require some floor surgery. If you're prepared to do that, then I suppose a mount kit would be useful. However, due to the considerable modification that must be done, the likelihood of mounts being made available is slim... there just isn't a market for them.