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[LeosCB7h22]

Edited because I know how you would respond to my original post.

I think this is stupid. I don't believe any of it. I think you are wrong, and must have a low IQ to buy into this BS.

The gov't is NOT out to get you. We are the BEST nation on earth. Few dare to fuck with us, and those that did got their buttholes ripped open for it. We don't wake up everyday in fear. We don't pray that a suicide bomber doesn't blow up the cafe we go to.

Who's responsible for that? GOVERNMENT. Case closed. You should thank them. If you don't like it, I think the middle east has room for more citizens. Just keep a close eye on your head. I hear they get cut off occasionally for believing differently than the majority of citizens.

you still didnt explain your reason. Iraq has become a hell hole since america invaded it.

have you ever put yourself in the iraqi (or you americans call them terrorists) shoes?

you and your wife are living in your house. you have some people in that house that are not so nice. then you get some complete strangers all the way from around the world, break in your house, kill your wife and your friends and tell you what to do and control you. would you like that? would you just take it?

HELL NO

i would fight to the death to get the invaders out. then in return i would get called a TERRORIST.

Keep thinking some terrorists were behind 9/11. the facts out weigh the stupidity of your cruel gov't

edit: over the past 8 years, i learned that the brainwashed people will never change their minds. they will just be slaves to their gov't.. you say we are the best nation on earth? how? your tax money and mine all went to killing children in iraq and palestine INSTEAD of building roads and schools in america. explain that

[turbomaxx]

you still didnt explain your reason. Iraq has become a hell hole since america invaded it.
There is NOTHING to explain. I believe what my government tells me. They have nothing to lie about.

have you ever put yourself in the iraqi (or you americans call them terrorists) shoes?
There's no reason too. i didn't put a gun the their heads and force them to live there. People have evaded religious persecution, racial persecution and hundreds of other forms of hatred for thousands of years. If they wanted out badly enough, they'd find a way to leave.

you and your wife are living in your house. you have some people in that house that are not so nice. then you get some complete strangers all the way from around the world, break in your house, kill your wife and your friends and tell you what to do and control you. would you like that? would you just take it?
Doesn't matter. That's not what we are doing over there. If a soldier goes in a house and kills someone, its because the soldier felt threatened by the individual. A soldier doesn't just kill someone like it's something to do. End of story.

HELL NO

i would fight to the death to get the invaders out.
You would. So would I. But we don't have to. Because our government, throughout the years, has made our country strong enough that people don't dare come here to attack us. And yet you sit there and cry and run your mouth about them trying to take our money, and think they killed our citizens, and complain about gov't screening our phone calls. Guess what. The gov't probably did screen YOUR phone calls. Did it affect your life in ANY WAY? NO. Would you ever know the difference? NO. Suck it up. They are on your team, whether you like it or not.

Keep thinking some terrorists were behind 9/11. the facts out weigh the stupidity of your cruel gov't
I will keep thinking that. It's MY choice. NOT your's. And NOTHING you say will change my mind. You're allowed to believe our govt is some big terrible thing, and equally, I'm allowed to call you an idiot for it.

edit: over the past 8 years, i learned that the brainwashed people will never change their minds. they will just be slaves to their gov't.

I'll be a slave to my gov't. I would gladly die for this country and its gov't. If you wouldnt, feel free to get out.

[LeosCB7h22]

my case is done.

PS. if you want to watch a REAL news channel that shows both sides of the war, stay away from cnn and the ones you watch on cable when you get home from work. maybe then, MAYBE you will wisen up and see what your beloved america is doing.

[turbomaxx]

you say we are the best nation on earth? how? your tax money and mine all went to killing children in iraq and palestine INSTEAD of building roads and schools in america. explain that

How are we NOT the best nation on earth? We are safe. We are prosperous. Even now, when we are in economical decline, we STILL have safe homes, little to no fear of being attacked. The majority of the United States doesn't wake up wondering how they will eat today. And I can say that. I'm unemployed. I have $97 to my name and don't live with mommy and daddy. And I still see that things could be worse, and are for most of the planet.

And OMFG. Our tax money DID not go to killing children in Iraq. Trust me, It's not the children we are worried about. Though maybe we should be. Soldiers go up to crying children, try to make them smile, and get fucking blown apart by the bomb on the childs chest. Is it the childs fault? Probably not. But still, we don't go out bombing kids. We bomb areas that we know have terrorist activities. If a child dies, it's unfortunate. But you gotta break some eggs if you want to make an omlet. We didn't try to kill children, and choosing to believe so is ignorant.

And I see plenty of roads being built, and have yet to see ONE school that needed fixing so badly it couldn't be taught in. We're doing FINE in that department.

[turbomaxx]

my case is done.

PS. if you want to watch a REAL news channel that shows both sides of the war, stay away from cnn and the ones you watch on cable when you get home from work. maybe then, MAYBE you will wisen up and see what your beloved america is doing.

I don't watch CNN. I don't watch the news. I know that stuff will be biased. And my Beloved (yes, you used the right word. I LOVE this country) America is doing just fine. Look around you. Learn to count your blessings. Thank God that you live here, and not somewhere that you have to worry about ending up in a video with what you call "towel heads" behind you with a knife.

[turbomaxx]

I'd also like to apologize for calling you a dumbass. That wasn't cool. I just get worked up when people talk about America like this. It's YOUR opinion, and I respect it just as you respect mine, reguardless of if we believe the same or not.

Good debate.

[LeosCB7h22]

I don't watch CNN. I don't watch the news. I know that stuff will be biased. And my Beloved (yes, you used the right word. I LOVE this country) America is doing just fine. Look around you. Learn to count your blessings. Thank God that you live here, and not somewhere that you have to worry about ending up in a video with what you call "towel heads" behind you with a knife.

i am happy i am here. america is doing alright compared to 3rd world countries. we would be 100x better when america stops sticking its nose in other countries businesses and problems

edit: its alright, every one has their opinions

[turbomaxx]

i am happy i am here. america is doing alright compared to 3rd world countries. we would be 100x better when america stops sticking its nose in other countries businesses and problems

I just DO NOT believe we stick our nose where it doesn't belong. The war we are in now? It DOES belong there. 97% of the country at least believes that terrorist flew those planes into our buildings (Since they said they did it) and that justifies our going over there and kicking ass.

If we hadn't gotten involved, thousands more would be dead. And we'd me mourning on 9/11, and maybe 4/9 and who knows, maybe 12/29. (Just random dates that terrorist could attack on)

[LeosCB7h22]

I just DO NOT believe we stick our nose where it doesn't belong. The war we are in now? It DOES belong there. 97% of the country at least believes that terrorist flew those planes into our buildings (Since they said they did it) and that justifies our going over there and kicking ass.

If we hadn't gotten involved, thousands more would be dead. And we'd me mourning on 9/11, and maybe 4/9 and who knows, maybe 12/29. (Just random dates that terrorist could attack on)

by the way, iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. we were after osama. remember that guy, that you still cant find (is it that hard). the gov't went into iraq claiming weapons of mass destruction (LOL ya right) just to go into iraq for the money. (you should know whats there). and right now, more than 50% of your people are against the war. THANK GOD, that old guy mccain didnt win office, we would be screwed

edit: and i still dont know how to explain there is no air plane pieces around the pentagon when it hit. that really puzzles me. the terrorists must have shot an air missle from the sky to the pentagon, thats what it looks like. those guys were good

[2.2litrebeater]

edit: over the past 8 years, i learned that the brainwashed people will never change their minds. they will just be slaves to their gov't.

I dont pretend to know exactly what happened. The video has some interesting points but is 95% speculation. However I do know when part of your argument is that everyone who disagrees with you is a brainwashed slave your argument loses all credibility and you just look like a crackpot conspiracy theorist.

[turbomaxx]

by the way, iraq has nothing to do with 9/11. we were after osama. remember that guy, that you still cant find (is it that hard). the gov't went into iraq claiming weapons of mass destruction (LOL ya right) just to go into iraq for the money. (you should know whats there). and right now, more than 50% of your people are against the war. THANK GOD, that old guy mccain didnt win office, we would be screwed

Well, at this point I can no longer continue the arguement. not because I feel I am wrong, but because I stopped taking the time to educate myself about these things long ago. I still don't feel like we are doing anything wrong, and I still believe what my government tells me.

Also, 50%? Where does that number come from? Because I guarantee you I could find a different number. I could probably find a source for every percent, 1-100% for being pro or anti war.

[turbomaxx]

edit: and i still dont know how to explain there is no air plane pieces around the pentagon when it hit. that really puzzles me. the terrorists must have shot an air missle from the sky to the pentagon, thats what it looks like. those guys were good

...there's images taken from a security camera of a REAL airplane flying into the building... That's pretty substantial evidence that a plane hit the building.

[LeosCB7h22]

Well, at this point I can no longer continue the arguement. not because I feel I am wrong, but because I stopped taking the time to educate myself about these things long ago. I still don't feel like we are doing anything wrong, and I still believe what my government tells me.

Also, 50%? Where does that number come from? Because I guarantee you I could find a different number. I could probably find a source for every percent, 1-100% for being pro or anti war.

i said more than 50%

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081903066.html

http://www.financialexpress.com/news...survey/137665/

case closed. good debate. have a good day

[turbomaxx]

Didn't you just tell me NOT to take my information from a major news source and now you're posting numbers from TWO major news sources?

[foamypirate]

over the past 8 years, i learned that the brainwashed people will never change their minds. they will just be slaves to their gov't.. you say we are the best nation on earth? how? your tax money and mine all went to killing children in iraq and palestine INSTEAD of building roads and schools in america. explain that

over the past 8 years, i learned that the conspiracy theorists will never change their minds. they will just be slaves to their co-conspirators..