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Originally posted by greencb7inkc View PostAnd i do have to say, when you chop a corner out of a tall, free-standing, object, it usually compromises integrity and that structure usually falls in the direction of the compromised corner. Not straight down.
Originally posted by CrazyHondaOwnR View Postbeat you to it ..... mines a slightly dif translation tho eh same thing thoLast edited by sackingz123; 09-12-2008, 08:39 PM.
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Originally posted by CbSmEeZaY View Postaww im sorry i didnt realize my caps lock was on. 11 days huh,thats cute.i wont do it again .and i love you too.
I figured it was a good way to fit it in.
And while I'm whippin my banstick about... CrazyHondaOwnR, makadasiggysmaller. (reduce the size of your signature, or I will...)
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Originally posted by deevergote. View Post
And while I'm whippin my banstick about... CrazyHondaOwnR, makadasiggysmaller. (reduce the size of your signature, or I will...)
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Originally posted by yeamans17 View PostWell, first of all it wasn't "middle easterners" it was Al Qaeda, a terrorist group, who just happens to run their operations out of the middle eastern region. To say that it was all "middle easterners" is ignorant.
Secondly, its not all the far fetched to say that Bush had his hand in the attacks, its not like he wouldn't have financial gain with his hand in an oil company, however the fact still remains that there is no solid proof. So its not insulting its speculating. Go rant to your mommy.
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it was the taliban cause you know the government would never make anything up considering bin laden has been dead for over 20 years.
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Originally posted by yeamans17 View PostI didn't say he wasn't involved, but I didn't say Bush WAS involved either. However its a possibility you really can't dismiss because no one knows all the facts of what happened leading up to that day.
Also, I find it highly suspect that certain people who clearly stand on one side of a clear partly line always point fingers in one direction, until they are called on it, and then they just try to play it down, and pretend that those little details might not be crucial. It is like a Red Herring.
A true bipartisan person (i.e. someone's who's position is actually valid) would point out the possibility on both sides. But alas, they never do. It is always just "oil monger Bushy that did it." Which is odd considering his "oil" holdings aren't that large anymore (the Clintons had almost as much prior to her running the primary), and MILLIONS of people hold stock in oil companies, not all of whom are evil or Republican. And yet, somehow, the Republicans are always slave to oil.
I can tell you for a fact from an economics standpoint that the current record oil profits have NOTHING to do with Bush, Iraq, Afghanistan or 9-11. The profit margin is the same, but volume and many other factors have altered the equation enough to make it look bad. Of course it doesn't help when all the misinformed liberal haters do nothing but point out the profits and don't address the entire equation. But why would they do that? It doesn't make their agenda look as impressive. The average oil company's profit margin is SMALLER than Wal-Marts. Why no run on Wal-Marts evil practices? The average profit margin on Honda's is higher, and yet that doesn't seem to bother you? Why is that?
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Originally posted by yeamans17 View PostSo now you're saying that my opinion isn't valid?
I'm biting my tongue on everything else I was going to say because I feel sorry for you...
Don't put words in my mouth. You know that isn't going to work. I never said your opinion was invalid, but I DID imply it. As long as you are skewed to one side or the other, you are presenting partial truths, facts and information. It is the nature of being biased. Sorry, you will just have to accept that fact. As such, I discount your opinion further than I would neutral opinions, because not only is it biased, which means it is not 100% trustworthy, but you are making baseless claims.
You show me something other than speculation, and something that implicates one side more than other beyond a reasonable doubt, and I will buy into it 100%. But you and I both know that you can't do that. Until that point, I give BOTH sides the benefit of the doubt.
And honestly, you saying that Bush could have had a roll in it is entirely possible. However, it isn't any more possible than Clinton having a roll in it, or you or I having a roll in it. Afterall, we don't know each other, so how can you say for sure? Just because it has a non-zero probability, DOES NOT mean that it is has a likely probability.
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Originally posted by yeamans17 View PostImplying that its invalid is just as good as saying it...
This is all I was trying to get across to the OP who said Bush had nothing to do with it, nobody knows the details, I highly doubt any one individual knows 100% of everything that went into planning such an extravagant attack.
Of course nobody knows 100% what happened. I would even extend that statement to include Bush. Which is why in the absence of some kind of hard proof, there is nothing at all. Since there is no proof either way, then both avenues are equally possible, and equally likely, whether you WANT to believe it or not. Anything else is nothing more than a false use of logic, reason and openmindedness.
In fact this reminds me of a religious discussion we recently had where there is absolutely ZERO evidence either way, and yet some claim that implies there was no God. It is blind, ignorant, close minded, and unfounded to accept a theory without proof for OR against said theory. Even if you want to believe it is true.
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