Customer foils bank robbery

[CustomLowz]

Bank customer pulls gun on robber to stop heist at Canton Township branch
Posted by Susan Oppat | The Ann Arbor News June 17, 2008 11:13AM
Categories: Crime
Authorities say a 54-year-old Washtenaw County man who was trying to rob a Canton Township bank was thwarted by a customer who pulled a gun on him.

Canton Police said the suspect, who is expected to be arraigned Wednesday, attempted to rob a teller at the Comerica bank at 45420 Michigan Ave. at 9:06 a.m. Monday.

The teller reported the man handed her a note claiming he was wearing a bomb, and demanding money, police said. The teller hit a silent alarm and started putting $1 bills into a bag when the man demanded bundles of $50 and $100 bills, police said.

Another teller noticed the robbery, and told a long-time customer at her window that the other teller was being robbed. The customer, who has a concealed weapons permit, asked if the teller was certain and then pulled a gun on the robber.

The suspect replied, "But I have a gun," police said. The customer responded, "I don't care, you are not robbing this bank."

Police said the customer put the suspect in a chair and held him at gunpoint until police arrived.

Officers said the robber did not have a bomb.

Police also said the customer is not facing any charges for pulling the gun because his permit was not violated.

The case remains under investigation by both police at the FBI.


http://blog.mlive.com/annarbornews/2...un_on_rob.html

[Pandemic]

That's going to be interesting. Both guys are going to be prosecuted. The man drew on the robber without being able to claim self defense. Robber had a bomb - yes. Man's life was in danger - yes. However man drawing on the robber could result in explosion. Man acted like a cowboy - yes.

The robber would have gotten away and been caught within a matter of weeks. The money is federally insured.

Like I said, this is going to be interesting to see what happens.

[SteveB]

Cowboy indeed. Was he thinking HIS money wouldn't be returned to him?

Yeesh. What if the bank robber actually DID have a piece....who ends up in a close range fire-fight over federally insured money?

[turbomaxx]

I thought if you had a concealed weapons permit and something like this happened you had to intervene?


Like if I have a cwp, and I'm in the bank, and someone tries to rob it, I thought you had to help, or you could be in trouble?

[Pandemic]

negative. The way I understand it you can help other people if and only if their life is in direct danger. In this case the bomb was assumed to be there. It may or may not have been shown to the clerk. Regardless - bombs can have a deadman switch which will go off if the body dies (releases the switch), etc. Shooting the man would have proven to be much more dangerous than just giving over the money.

Now a pistol to the clerks head is another story. The threat is a clear and direct danger. Still you have to be careful not to have the victim taken as hostage. Also you have to shoot them in the right spot (apricot) or else they could involuntarily fire a round (pointed at the clerks face).

If you choose not to intervene you wont be held accountable. You CAN help - you dont have to however.


This case was a case of cowboy.

In addition to that you CAN NOT carry in a federal installation (ie: bank, court house, etc).
The man most likely will be charged. In my opinion, he should be. If the man had a bomb they would have all died. The man's actions weren't thought out and they were very dangerous. He got lucky this time.

[SteveB]

I thought if you had a concealed weapons permit and something like this happened you had to intervene?

You believe there's a Federal law that forces civilians to draw firearms to protect somebody elses money?

Think, man.

[alb_accord]

there are two kinds of gun permits... one that you can have a gun at home and the other that you can carry a gun with you at all time because your life is in danger or something(need to show prof in front of a judge)
his life was in danger since the robber said he had a bomb..... a lawyer can argue that for him.... and a judge will accept that argument without any problem since the guy stopped a federal crime in process. and possibly saved the life of the teller and other costumers (yeah the judge can accept that argument too, well depends on the judge lol)

[SteveB]

his life was in danger since the robber said he had a bomb..... a lawyer can argue that for him.... and a judge will accept that argument without any problem since the guy stopped a federal crime in process.

No. The "life in danger" argument and "federal crime" will have to be made separately.

"...I'll accept arguement "A" because you prevented crime "B"..." won't fly.

[Pandemic]

there are two kinds of gun permits... one that you can have a gun at home and the other that you can carry a gun with you at all time because your life is in danger or something(need to show prof in front of a judge)
his life was in danger since the robber said he had a bomb..... a lawyer can argue that for him.... and a judge will accept that argument without any problem since the guy stopped a federal crime in process. and possibly saved the life of the teller and other costumers (yeah the judge can accept that argument too, well depends on the judge lol)

gun permit to keep a gun at home is the second amendment. CCW is to carry a weapon while concealed (weapons include: gun, knife, pepper spray, club, etc). That's right, you need a CCW permit to legally carry pepper spray, etc.

No matter what the permit, he'll have it revoked:

1). bomb>gun - he put people whose lives were in danger in MORE danger.
2). federal building - he shouldnt have been carrying in a bank
3). No see bomb - bomb wasn't seen so there was no clear and present danger to their lives. Sure the threat is there, but you cant shoot a guy for saying "i'm going to kill you" if he doesn't pose a threat.

I'd like to see what happens to the guy :P

[BBuncky2]

This is hilarious. I grew up in Canton and only on Michigan Avenue would you ever see a bank robbery.

[Gemini]

That cowboy is gonna be in trouble.....education on the dos and donts while while packing is a must. Having CCW dont make you a vilante or cowboy, he just wanted to be Mr. Gangsta.

Its funny because alot of people in that position would have done the same thing, adrenaline will cloud your judgement in most cases.

[Blk EX Coupe]

This thread is from 2008.

[Gemini]

This thread is from 2008.

fuck....I'm an idiot

[fatboy1185]

We got us a cowboy - boondock saints

[mappyCB7]

We got us a cowboy - boondock saints

I love that fuckin movie!!!