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    #31
    ^^ haha that video is fantastic.

    Obama is a very good public speaker, he made one slip up.. get over it like many said before me. Personally I am all behind Obama. Hilary is out, the two of them had a meeting about her as Vice President but it is still unclear what was talked about. I also don't really care for clinton, but to each his own.

    I would NEVER vote for McCain. That guy sucks. Not only would I not want to elect a POW President in a time of WAR, this mans idol is George Dubyah. So you can assume that McCain will lead similar paths in his presidency. I would think agreeing with Bush and his policies on war are a result of his brain being tweaked under torture.

    Since Bush was elected gas prices have soared from an average of $1.47 to over $4 a gallon and is projected to reach $6 by the end of the summer. Ok, I'm 17 years old and work for an hourly rate of $8. This would mean if I worked an hour, I would have just enough to put a gallon of gas in my car and buy a bottle of gatorade. Thats F'd.

    Bush has stock in the major oil companies as well as treaties with the Bin Ladin family. Hense the not finding Osama, and the rising gas prices. It's all a scheme for more profit. Bush's administration has done all its can to protect Big Oil profits - ExxonMobile's profits hitting $40 Billion in PROFITS last year. That's the highest ever in History.

    Also, here are a couple facts I was able to dig up on McCain.

    -McCain’s tax plan would give $3.8 billion in tax cuts to the five largest American oil companies.

    -Like Bush, McCain protects Big Oil’s profits. Last year, McCain was the only senator to miss a vote on the energy bill repealing tax subsidies for oil companies. In 2005, he voted against a temporary windfall profits tax on oil companies to fund tax credits for working families. Previously, he opposed ending tax breaks for oil and natural gas companies related to depletion and drilling costs.

    -McCain has received $723,777 in campaign contributions from oil and gas industry PACs and employees—almost twice as much as Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.

    If elected president. I can assure you McCain will dig America's hole deaper than ever.

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      #32
      Originally posted by ExCoupe92 View Post
      ^^ haha that video is fantastic.

      Obama is a very good public speaker, he made one slip up.. get over it like many said before me. Personally I am all behind Obama. Hilary is out, the two of them had a meeting about her as Vice President but it is still unclear what was talked about. I also don't really care for clinton, but to each his own.

      I would NEVER vote for McCain. That guy sucks. Not only would I not want to elect a POW President in a time of WAR, this mans idol is George Dubyah. So you can assume that McCain will lead similar paths in his presidency. I would think agreeing with Bush and his policies on war are a result of his brain being tweaked under torture.

      Since Bush was elected gas prices have soared from an average of $1.47 to over $4 a gallon and is projected to reach $6 by the end of the summer. Ok, I'm 17 years old and work for an hourly rate of $8. This would mean if I worked an hour, I would have just enough to put a gallon of gas in my car and buy a bottle of gatorade. Thats F'd.

      Bush has stock in the major oil companies as well as treaties with the Bin Ladin family. Hense the not finding Osama, and the rising gas prices. It's all a scheme for more profit. Bush's administration has done all its can to protect Big Oil profits - ExxonMobile's profits hitting $40 Billion in PROFITS last year. That's the highest ever in History.

      Also, here are a couple facts I was able to dig up on McCain.

      -McCain’s tax plan would give $3.8 billion in tax cuts to the five largest American oil companies.

      -Like Bush, McCain protects Big Oil’s profits. Last year, McCain was the only senator to miss a vote on the energy bill repealing tax subsidies for oil companies. In 2005, he voted against a temporary windfall profits tax on oil companies to fund tax credits for working families. Previously, he opposed ending tax breaks for oil and natural gas companies related to depletion and drilling costs.

      -McCain has received $723,777 in campaign contributions from oil and gas industry PACs and employees—almost twice as much as Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.

      If elected president. I can assure you McCain will dig America's hole deaper than ever.
      Most of what you said was speculation.

      Just because gas prices increased while Bush was in office, doesn't mean he caused the price of oil to increase as well.

      It's speculation like yours, that actually drove oil prices to where they are.

      I agree, McCain seems to be war happy in places he shouldn't be concerned with (i.e. Iran)

      You're assuming that McCain is JUST favoring big oil with tax cuts, when the tax breaks themselves are all across the board for companies across america.
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        #33
        "Sumner Redstone, who calls himself a "liberal Democrat," said he's supporting President Bush.

        The chairman of the entertainment giant Viacom said the reason was simple: Republican values are what U.S. companies need. Speaking to some of America's and Asia's top executives gathered for Forbes magazine's annual Global CEO Conference, Mr. Redstone declared: "I look at the election from what's good for Viacom. I vote for what's good for Viacom. I vote, today, Viacom.

        "I don't want to denigrate Kerry," he went on, "but from a Viacom standpoint, the election of a Republican administration is a better deal. Because the Republican administration has stood for many things we believe in, deregulation and so on. The Democrats are not bad people. . . . But from a Viacom standpoint, we believe the election of a Republican administration is better for our company."

        Sumner Redstone - Majority Owner and Chairman of Viacom

        Sumner Redstone and his family are majority owners of CBS Corporation, Viacom, and Midway Games, MTV Networks, BET, and movie production and distribution Paramount Pictures and DreamWorks movie studios, and are equal partners in MovieTickets.com.
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        Hmmm....Leftist media? right.
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          #34
          understand that oil across the board is becoming more expensive as our refinery's run dry, however a $40 billion profit is bull shit. If I were the president of the united states, I would issue a profit cap.

          And how would you explain the fluctuating price in a barrel of crude oil to the rising price at the pumps still! Why is it that when the price of a barrel dropped ten cents about two weeks ago, the pumps raised thirteen cents? It is not all speculation.

          Both Bush and Cheney had MAJOR stock in the ENRON corporation which is a major energy / power company whose products ranged from making steel to petrochemicals. As we all know, to do anything in this world you need crude.. however miraculously Cheney and Bush both sold all their stock and abandonned all the money they invested in the company before it went bankrupt. Political Scheme. The whole Bush registration is corrupt starting with his father.

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            #35
            Originally posted by ExCoupe92 View Post
            understand that oil across the board is becoming more expensive as our refinery's run dry, however a $40 billion profit is bull shit. If I were the president of the united states, I would issue a profit cap.

            And how would you explain the fluctuating price in a barrel of crude oil to the rising price at the pumps still! Why is it that when the price of a barrel dropped ten cents about two weeks ago, the pumps raised thirteen cents? It is not all speculation.

            Both Bush and Cheney had MAJOR stock in the ENRON corporation which is a major energy / power company whose products ranged from making steel to petrochemicals. As we all know, to do anything in this world you need crude.. however miraculously Cheney and Bush both sold all their stock and abandonned all the money they invested in the company before it went bankrupt. Political Scheme. The whole Bush registration is corrupt starting with his father.
            Gas prices are based on a lot more than what some oil exec wants his pocketbook too look like. Maybe you should do some real research instead of listening to people your age.
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              #36
              show me.

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                #37
                Originally posted by ExCoupe92 View Post
                show me.
                Do your own research. I dont spoon feed.
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ExCoupe92 View Post
                  understand that oil across the board is becoming more expensive as our refinery's run dry, however a $40 billion profit is bull shit. If I were the president of the united states, I would issue a profit cap.

                  And how would you explain the fluctuating price in a barrel of crude oil to the rising price at the pumps still! Why is it that when the price of a barrel dropped ten cents about two weeks ago, the pumps raised thirteen cents? It is not all speculation.

                  Both Bush and Cheney had MAJOR stock in the ENRON corporation which is a major energy / power company whose products ranged from making steel to petrochemicals. As we all know, to do anything in this world you need crude.. however miraculously Cheney and Bush both sold all their stock and abandonned all the money they invested in the company before it went bankrupt. Political Scheme. The whole Bush registration is corrupt starting with his father.
                  ever heard of futures? or even how commodities work?

                  please google both, and then you'll understand how oil, wheat, corn, and even gold are traded.

                  *edit* I have energy stocks....a lot of them. It's a sure fire winner.

                  I'm GOING to make money from energy stock....why wouldn't you want to cash in.

                  Scott (owequitit) had an excellent point a few weeks back about oil profits in comparison to other companies of completely different sectors.

                  Wal Mart has higher profit margins then ANY of the big oil companies. It just so happens that oil is consumed on a TREMENDOUSLY larger scale than good purchased from Wal Mart.

                  You'll probably never complain about Wal Mart making a huge profit, because you feel like 1 or 2 people have the ability to influence the world to raise oil.

                  Not likely.
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                    #39
                    I know, nor do you do your own.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ExCoupe92 View Post
                      I know, nor do you do your own.
                      Apparently. Kids these days
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by ExCoupe92 View Post
                        show me.


                        Blame gas prices on Bush? Look at what gas prices have done since the democrats have taken over congress.

                        Look at some of off the wall environmental stuff that is becoming law with the democrats at the helm. I heard something about the state of Washington outlawing bonfire's on the beach because it is causing global warming. Next it's going to be you can't run your furnace during the winter months because all the heat is escaping from your house and rising into the atmosphere and creating global warning.

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                          #42
                          Originally posted by MadSpleen85 View Post


                          Blame gas prices on Bush? Look at what gas prices have done since the democrats have taken over congress.

                          Look at some of off the wall environmental stuff that is becoming law with the democrats at the helm. I heard something about the state of Washington outlawing bonfire's on the beach because it is causing global warming. Next it's going to be you can't run your furnace during the winter months because all the heat is escaping from your house and rising into the atmosphere and creating global warning.
                          no.

                          interest groups with a lot of money are blocking our ability to drill.

                          plus,

                          don't forget that oil from saudi arabia is still VERY cheap for oil companies.

                          it's cheaper for an oil company to increase it's supply by either merging or buying out another company than it is to drill for new oil.

                          Republicans have JUST as much blame as any of the democrats that passed any Drilling Restriction policies.

                          You pointed out a very baseless opinion against one political group, without even trying to compare with it's 'opposite'

                          stop being biased, and get your facts straight.
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by verothacamaro View Post
                            no.

                            interest groups with a lot of money are blocking our ability to drill.

                            plus,

                            don't forget that oil from saudi arabia is still VERY cheap for oil companies.

                            it's cheaper for an oil company to increase it's supply by either merging or buying out another company than it is to drill for new oil.

                            Republicans have JUST as much blame as any of the democrats that passed any Drilling Restriction policies.

                            You pointed out a very baseless opinion against one political group, without even trying to compare with it's 'opposite'

                            stop being biased, and get your facts straight.
                            CNSNews Story
                            Read that it spells out how it is.

                            In April 2006, Democrats promised the American people a "commonsense plan" to bring down gas prices. But the plan does not include drilling for U.S. oil reserves.
                            Republicans are reminding the American people average gas prices under the Democrat-controlled Congress have risen from $2.33 a gallon on January 4, 2007 -- the first day of the Democratic Majority -- to the current $4.00 a gallon.
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                              #44
                              This is why nothing gets done. Empty plans and endless blaming. If Washington cut half the bullshit out, wed be far better as a country. Wed also be better off with less biased media and more coverage of what the government ACTUALLY does and what candidates ACTUALLY stand for, rather than nitpicking every little piece of every candidates background.
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by MadSpleen85 View Post
                                CNSNews Story
                                Read that it spells out how it is.
                                Like I said.......interest groups with lot's of money.


                                You honestly think any of those senators give a flying fuck about the environment?

                                Ever heard of a lobbyist?

                                apparently not, mr. blame game.

                                Which is why the republicans keep pointing the finger at big oil.

                                of course you can't explain that one either.
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