Well, it looks as if I'll be spending the summer rebuilding the 3800...

[HondaGuy1212]

really? damn....i think im just better off swapping an f22 tranny instead. see how that does on my gas milage for the H. lower rpm = less fuel consumption on the freeway. (which i mainly drive on)

Hahha I'll trade you my F22B1 trans for your H22 trans. I hate the long gearing!

Good luck with the building of the GTP, deev. Btw, are those cars open diff?

[Turbo Dave]

dude i would fix it and sell it and get a turbo luxury car like a diesel mercedes turbo and go biodiesel just as much work as building the gtp

or just get a nice audi turbo. anything luxury with boost.

[HondaFan81]

I think you have too many projects and are spreading yourself too thin. Right now you need a car to drive, bottomline. So choose the car closest to be in working order & let that be your DD. Chose between the other 2 cars left as to which is your fun/project car and let the other go/get money from it to help with the 2 projects left. That's my opinion. You have a hard time making decisions, it will spread you too thin and you're left with disappointment when nothing is completed in the end. Also, you getting the GTP rebuilt with performance parts this summer, highly unlikely. Takes more time than that, summer is already here and before you know it, will pass. You would have to have ALL the money already saved up like NOW and order the parts like by end of this week. Have all your resources lined up and get cracking. Then, you will have bugs to deal with and fix before it is a stable/reliable car, plus dyno tuning.

I would say that if your 3rd gen Accord is close to DD status, keep that stock-like, repair what is needed only. Then, your cb7 is already H22 swapped, you have connections on this site, use it to your advantage to do up the h22 swapped cb7 for project/fun car. Sell the GTP and use the money for the hatch & cb7.

OR

Keep GTP as DD, pay shop to fix what is needed only for it to be back to DD status. Sell the hatch & concentrate on cb7 as project car.

[HenRoc]

WHAAAA!? GASP.....a GTP over a CB7? and you're the founder and CEO of CB7tuner lol

...he wasn't the founder. The duties of maintaining and owning the site were handed to him by the original founder Steve a.k.a ATX.

[wed3k]

how do you blow all the seals out of the motor? too much pressure in the crank case?

[Losiracer2]

...he wasn't the founder. The duties of maintaining and owning the site were handed to him by the original founder Steve a.k.a ATX.

oh, i didnt know that...thanks for clearing it up.

[owequitit]

With as much driving as you do in it, I would probably keep it nearly stock. I know the prospects of those engines, they are beastly, but everytime you modify something, you are introducing more possibilities for trouble. It really sucks that GM's engineers have to put up with their hard work being completely cheaped out by bean counters who want to save $.05 per engine by putting shitty seals in them.

Realistically, a build probably won't be necessary. There was no rod knock, or other major issues (you would have known something was wrong LONG before just happening across a huge undercar oil slick). Since the block is cast iron, it might need a machining and some new rings/bearings etc, but most likely won't need to be completely redone. The crank is probably OK too. I have seen a 2.2 Cavi (worst engine EVER) with a severe rod knock, and it didn't need anything other than a bearing and a polish on the crank journal. One of the nice things about loose tolerance engines.

I tend to agree with Hondafan that you are getting to spread out. I would drive the CB, fix the GTP, and then just drive it. Then, when you are not upside down, you can either get a different car that you like better, or you can keep driving it until it dies. Maybe some minor mods, but I just don't think you will be happy if you sink a ton of money into building it up, and then it doesn't do its daily job the way you want.

Just my .02.

[lokuputha]

If you want a fast V6, put one in the CB. It doesn't even need to be manual, the 5-speed auto will do.

It might cost about 5k but, you'll get a nearly stock Honda V6 with some awesome power, reliability, and gas mileage.

if you plan on doing up the GTP, get a rear sway bar and some good Bilstein HD dampers, and you'll love it.

[alb_accord]

hey deev let me know if you need a hand with all of the 3 projects. lol let me know at least a week before so i can request off from work.

[Gyuri87]

Get rid of that car... MUSH NOW!

[slammed4thgen]

gyeah man get rid of the gtp and take the loss, those things are money traps.

title of thread should read:

well, it looks as if i'll be spending the summer building the h.

[gloryaccordy]

I am with the others, you know what I would suggest you buy.

It sucks to be upside down on the car but it sucks even more to be upside down and doing crazy repairs. Plus it is a boat and gas is $4.00/gal. Throw in another 3800 rebuilt w/new OEM gaskets and stuff and make that car someone else's problem. Then get a little station car like a Sentra or something.

[npor]

LSx swaps in sonoma/s10's get 24-28mpg...


just throwing that out there...



edit;; wait nevermind, 23mpg

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f213/f...s-10-a-326469/

and this guy is getting 30mpg, running mid to low 11's

http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f213/p...beware-281361/

It is a Auto and the 30MPG is HWY only.. 65mph with the tune tweaked to get best milage. This was also the 5.3L the best I have gotten with the 6.0L has been 26.5

[deevergote]

The rebuild will only happen if I see that the leaking is extensive... if I fear that the internals are damaged, there's no point in taking the time to fix all the gaskets that are shot, just to have to tear it down for a rebuild.


The CB7 is the daily right now, because it's the only one running. It was intended to be the summer project.

The hatchback will be the best daily once the new motor is in and running correctly. It has all new brakes, all new suspension, and the motor I'm putting in is a fresh rebuild. It will be boosted eventually, but not right away. Not until the GTP is solid.





Cisco, you're probably right about it taking more time... ESPECIALLY with me doing it! Of course, I'm installing a carport, which is basically a heavy canvas garage. That means I can do projects that don't have to be wrapped up in a day. My way of thinking about it is this... The cost of forged internals will be near the cost of what a shop's repair bill would be. If I'm going to put money into the car, I'm going to make it better by my standards. I dunno... probably not. You guys know how I get



I can't sell it and take the loss. There are no cars out there that I could get to replace it that would be worth an extra $4000+ tacked on. It HAS to be fixed. Hell, selling a big thirsty car like that for anywhere near what it's worth (not what I owe, but what it's worth from a private party seller) would be hard enough without a weepy engine! When it works properly, it really IS a nice car. It's just been so long that it worked properly...







Ok, the realistic plans are this: Pull the engine, replace the seals that went (and any others that could be next). Do a full tuneup, and anything else that is made easier by having the engine out of the car. Put it back in and keep it as reliable as possible. It'll still probably get some mods, but not enough to put it in the 11s. Maybe high 13s.

The CB7's h22 build will continue on it's currently slow and steady pace. I have another motor to build, and the current one runs well enough... so there's no necessity there. That car isn't going anywhere. It'll have to be stolen, wrecked, or abducted by aliens for me to not have it in my possession. I plan to be buried in that thing!

The hatchback, as I said, will be put on the road as a reliable driver. Once it's running well, I don't have much mechanical stuff to concern myself with. It's all been replaced. That means I can work on painting it, and refreshing the interior (which is absolutely rank at the moment...) The boosting will probably be next spring's project. The hatchback will be fixed before the GTP, simply because I have it all set to pull the motor. Just waiting for that tree to come down, so I can erect my carport and get to work!

[deevergote]

As stated above.... getting another car is NOT an option. I'm stuck under this thing. I have to make it work. If someone wants to send me $4000, I'll sell the GTP right now for $5000 and get something else. Any takers?